Dear Mementomoristultus, you are a new user making a hell of a lot of changes. Could you please respect osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments and give an explanation when you change something? For example, in this changeset you moved the Ibiza place node and the reason you gave for that is "23". How is anyone supposed to understand what this is about?

Hallo Volker, ja es ist tatsächlich "nur wegen der Regeln" - wenn man dem einen erlaubt, historische Autobahnen zu mappen, mappt der nächste historische Eisenbahnen und der dritte historische Gebäude. Das stört aber die Erfassung der Gegenwart - wenn im Editor da plötzlich lauter konfuse Linien auftauchen, die ja alle "nur historisch" sind. Ist ist also tatsächlich so, dass unser System dafür nicht ausgelegt ist und damit nicht umgehen kann. Wir mappen das, was man vor Ort sieht - und sonst, von wenigen Ausnahmen abgesehen, nichts. Wenn also irgendwelche Pfeiler oder Brückenbauwerke oder sonst was von einer historischen Autobahnplanung übrig sind, kann man die einzeichnen, aber für reine "Pläne", von denen in der Natur nichts sichtbar ist, haben wir keinen Platz. Sowas müsstest Du entweder bei "openhistoricalmap.org" einpflegen, oder Du erstellst eine private Karte auf umap.openstreetmap.de.

The land owners claim that this road is permanently closed for renaturation, that nobody, not even the land owners, may use this road, that the buildings at the north end of the road may only be reached from the water and have no vehicular access by land. If that is indeed correct, then (and only then) it could be possible to change the tagging to "abandoned:highway=track". Do we have any local mappers who can verify the situation on the ground? If what the land owners claim is true, we would expect some form of permanent barrier at the south end of the road, rather than just a sign or a lift gate, or at least signage that makes it clear that nobody is supposed to use this path (rather than just "private path").

Account blocked in osm.org/user_blocks/7216

OSM wants to record what is there on the ground. That is our mission. If you delete something from OSM that is there on the ground, then you are acting against our mission.

Of course deletions are possible, and even desired, if something in OSM is wrong, or if something that was there on the ground earlier is now removed.

If you can show that the aerial imagery we have for this area is outdated, and that the track has been dug up and trees have been planted there, and the buildings on the north end of the track are now unreachable by vehicle but only from the water side, then of course it is a good thing to delete the track.

But you cannot delete the track just because it is illegal or because you would prefer people not to know about it.

Everyone will get blocked for vandalism when they remove things that actually exist. Just like you.

Dear Anders Wiig, there is a clearly visible road here on aerial imagery. Your deletion of valid data amounts to vandalism. Please do not do this again or your account will have to be blocked. If using the road is illegal for some reason (and this is obvious from on-the-ground signage) then you can add appropriate access tags to the road (e.g. access=private for a private road).

The fact that a structure has been built illegally is never sufficient reason to remove it from OSM. We don't delete a building from OSM just because it has been erected without permission either!

Best regards, Frederik Ramm, OSMF Data Working Group (
Ticket#2023061610000139)

0-hour block issued asking user to use proper changeset comments in osm.org/user_blocks/7211

Name edits to the Persian Gulf require prior consensus on OSM mailing list/community forum. Please do not edit this without discussing first. Also, never make an important change like this and specify only "..." as a reason. This edit is now reverted.

What you saying there is a grandiose misrepresentation of the situation. You feel entitled to apply your reasoning to Ukraine no matter how much the locals dislike it, and I'm telling you no, you are not entitled to. To avoid any misunderstandings, Crimea also counts as "Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia" and I will not have you stoke the flames there either.

Dear michael60634, it is not for you to decide what English names in Ukraine should be written as. You have been involved in conflicts with members of the Ukrainian community before and the DWG has admonished the other side to remain civil. However this is not a pissing contest and we will not tolerate you riling the Ukrainian community from the comfort and safety of your home, only to then come running and complain about the abusive comments you receive and asking us to take action against those whom you have upset. Please cease any and all mapping in Ukraine - including Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia - for the duration of the war. Thank you - Frederik Ramm, OSMF Data Working Group, Ticket#2023060510000151

The issue is that we would prefer people from outside the Ukraine to map outside the Ukraine - whether things are objectively wrong or not. We have, on occasion, allowed the Ukrainian community to map objectively wrong things on purpose (e.g. to remove military installations even when they are still there in reality). You cannot know the priorities of the Ukrainian community from a distance, and hence - unless help is specifically requested - we're asking outsiders to apply their mapping energy elsewhere.

What is the source of the detailed railway information added in this changeset?

What is the provenance of the "Geojson data file" mentioned in the sources?

What is the source of this power line information?

Ruben, Frederik from the DWG here. I understand that you thought you were doing a good thing by helping with the map but we'd really prefer that - unless the Ukrainian community is asking for help which they currently aren't - contributors from outside the Ukraine spend their time elsewhere at this time. It is very easy to accidentally upset a nation already ravaged by war. Mappers in Ukraine have access to the same materials that you do and they will usually be better able to draw the right conclusions from it.

I know I would feel a little peeved if something blew up in my country and mappers from the other side of the planet were flocking towards the disaster area in order to map it. It would feel like being in an accident and people rubbernecking on the other lane!

Again, appreciate the desire to help but please only help in Ukraine when asked.

May I inquire what the data source for this 5,500 member multipolygon is? You have not specified any but it can hardly have been hand-drawn?

Hallo uboot, die DWG hat eine Beschwerde des Eigentümers der Wasserstelle node/4363704826 - sie sei angeblich "Privatwasser". Kannst Du dazu etwas sagen?

Please refrain from "disaster tourism" mapping like this. The Ukrainian community is perfectly capable of recording destruction themselves where it is deemed useful. There's no need for people from other parts of the world to race to be the first to translate their TV news into Ukraine mapping.

Please refrain from "disaster tourism" mapping like this. The Ukrainian community is perfectly capable of recording destruction themselves where it is deemed useful. There's no need for people from other parts of the world to race to be the first to translate their TV news into Ukraine mapping.