hi, thank you for replying, I forgot to mention that I already restored the Feltrinelli and the post office…

have a good day,
Martin

It seems as if you deleted the whole block and then redrew it, but this is frowned upon because typically information is lost. For the same reason, you should not convert polygon POIs to points by deleting the polygons, it leads to data loss (for example the post office in this changeset).

Hi Antanicus, in this changeset you have deleted some objects, including the feltrinelli bookshop with the comment "misc fixes to area". Could you please explain what kind of fix was applied here?

Cheers,
Martin

forse un buon punto per documentare la situazione nonché il tagging sarebbe la pagina di Roma nel wiki di OpenStreetMap

Buonasera Claudio,

esiste un forum, forum.osm.org che però per l’Italia non è mai stato utilizzato molto, ed ora sta per essere dismesso (perché il software non viene più mantenuto) e traslocato sulla nuova piattaforma community.osm.org
Invece la community italiana si trova sulla mailing list talk-it e quella locale su talk-it-lazio, entrambi trovabili qui: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/
C’è anche un gruppo telegram OpenStreetMap Italia (gruppo chiuso con anticamera per motivi di antispam) ma per elaborare uno schema di tagging è meglio usare mailing list o wiki direi.
Ben vengono le tue proposte,
a presto
Martin

sorry, I do not read Chinese and I cannot judge this proposal, please add it yourself

Das ist für uns egal wann Komoot es fixed, wenn die mit bicycle=no nicht umgehen können ist das kein Grund, für den Renderer oder Router zu taggen.

jetzt wird schon seit 2 Wochen diskutiert, und die mtb:scale tags sind immer noch weg, obwohl es ziemlich klar ist dass die nichts mit einem Fahradfahrverbot zu tun haben. Ein erster Schritt könnte deren Wiederherstellung sein…

Ob Details interessieren entscheidet der Mapper der sie einträgt, sie rauszulöschen obwohl sie zutreffen ist Vandalismus, bitte sofort damit aufhören.

way/917710927/history
du hast name und operator hier entfernt, waren die nicht zutreffend? Dann sollten sie korrigiert werden, nicht gelöscht

I had missed a section in the wiki about the values for the drink: tag and agree it can be used for this place. It wasn’t documented in the value table but I added it (commonly used already), the generic value is “retail”

great, let’s move over to the wiki

bhietsch, can you understand it makes a huge difference whether a bakery sells wine (to drink at home) or it serves wine to drink on the premises? A tag that can mean both seems almost useless to me, if this was the choice in your part of the world it may work for you, around here we buy the wine in every supermarket and convenience store, in dedicated wine stores, on the market (this is a place where local producers sell fruit, vegetables, meat, fish, etc. to end consumers), or have it bottled from huge tanks in dedicated shops. Most or all of these are implicit (the markets mostly don’t get mapped with single booths), the sells:wine tag is only used for exceptional cases. There are no supermarkets that don’t sell wine. For us it is very important if you can drink it there or not.

I did not say to remove anything, and I did not remove the drink:wine tag which mbeyerle has added to this place without knowing it, despite believing it has generally a problem as it isn’t clear whether it is only for places serving a specific drink or also for sale only. I agree that _replacing_ a tag with something more specific has to be weighted against how established/agreed the replacement is. The case at hand is different, because a more specific tag was removed and a more generic/unclear different one added, without any need (different key) and remotely on several places which the editor probably did not know either.

As we seem to agree that the tag removal was misguided, I reverted this part of this edit. Looking at your profile, I noticed you performed several of these edits which all removed sells:wine so we would have information loss in all these cases. Please discuss semiautomatic edits like this beforehand and please bring all these sells:wine that you have removed, back on the map. Currently there are zero sells:wine in the database.

Cheers
Martin

you are correct that the page states the tag drink is used for beverages served or sold (it is written differently in different places), but still it is not a reason to remove the sells:wine tag because it is more specific and doesn’t include drinks served, it is only about selling them

If a tag is not in the wiki it doesn’t imply it should be removed. There is no either or for tags unless they are using the same key. In this case it seems a bakery sells wine, so sells:wine seems a perfect fit. drink:* is about a tag where you can specify which drinks a place serves (to consume on the premises), so it doesn’t apply to this bakery.

drink:wine according to the page you linked is “to describe the specific drink which is served”, so it is not correct with “bottled” either, that would be the case that you would be served bottled wine.

Please, you should never change tags for objects you don’t know in person, and generally there is no reason to remove a tag like sells:wine if you want to add one with a different key like drink:wine (if it would be correct, which happens to not be the case here but could well exist somewhere else).

Cheers
Martin

Thing is, the part in question is not part of any relation, site or other, so now the only way to determine that this is a part of the Aurelian Walls is the name. Please add the wikipedia tag and wikidata tag back, because it is required and it is not wrong. There is no benefit from removing correct information here.