fixed, thanks!

Hi! Yeah, sorry. It's a grade per Schall Scale (https://www.bergfreunde.eu/via-ferrata-grades-calculator/). I keep forgetting that OSM uses it's own standard.

Right. It's for the tourists staying at the bungalows, which all seem to be available for rent.

Ah, no, sorry. That stretch of road was too long and I did not realize. Going down the valley, there are three distinct surfaces - compacted, two asphalt lines for wheels, and full asphalt. Unfortunately, I no longer remember where exactly they start/end. I've now adjusted this and the downstream stretch. But it is not all unpaved, as was tagged before.

Vielleicht hat jemand versehentlich den Kletterbegriff verwendet, weil die Notiz besagt, dass es sich um einen „alternativen“ Einstieg zum Kamplsteig handelt. Ich stimme zu, dass die schwarz-weiße Markierung kein Kletter- oder Wanderwegzeichen ist. Am besten wäre es, den Punkt mit „FixMe“ zu markieren und nach einer Begehung von jemandem anpassen zu lassen.
Oder, wenn du dir sicher bist, dann entferne die Weglinie einfach?

Ok, ich verstehe, was hier passiert ist. Jemand anderes hat die Kletterroute bereits vorher eingetragen. Ich habe nur das Tag sport\:climbing hinzugefügt, damit sie auf Kletterkarten angezeigt wird.

Stimmt. Es ist auch möglich das ich die falsche Linie geklickt habe.
Bitte korrigieren Sie es nach eigenem Ermessen. Ich klettere derzeit in der Hohen Tatra und kann keine Änderungen vornehmen, bevor ich wieder zu Hause bin.

Oh, es ist sicher eine Kletterroute. Meine Kollegen vom Alpenverein haben das schon gemacht. Da ist auch eine Markierung am Anfang.

ah, yes, you're right. I've adjusted it to follow the light visible path.
I will eventually get to examine this area in the near future. Last weekend I was on the opposite walls, going over Königschusswandsteig and Bismarcksteig.

Right. That part is hard to say from this perspective. But the path is clearly visible on the latest aerial imagery.
This is a Klettergebiet so I assume it is full of approach paths.

Hi! This one is based on the aerial imagery.
I'm planning to go there in the future and check out the climbing routes.

Hi David! Die Name ist mir unbekannt. :)
Ich habe dort gewandert und die Bohrhaken gesehen. Wahrscheinlich ist es irgendwo dokumentiert.
Danke, ebenfalls!

Here's the latest thread on the topic, with some history: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-the-current-climbing-wiki-correct/120225/

Hey! It is really a pleasure and honor to have your feedback.
As far as the technicalities go, the summary is contained in the wiki at
osm.wiki/Climbing
I've seen quite a few threads, some older than 10 years, where these issues are discussed. Then they have been summarized on the wiki page. I've also initiated a few discussions at the end of the last year.
I find having crags on a map quite useful. Whether it is practical to have every route or not, is a separate story. You are right in that the routes are (mostly) vertical. That's why route_bottom is mostly used. Easy multi-pitches can easily be as horizontal as they are vertical. But nevermind.
As OSM is just a database, projects like Open Climbing are utilizing it in creative ways to also contain photos and topos. I really like and appreciate the effort. I do like to have multi-pitch routes shown. Sometimes I add them as a crag, so they are visible within an area. Still no precise definition in that regard. I guess, in OSM things just evolve and are rarely established.
We've had tons of discussions about the categorization of Paths, over several months, with nothing coming out of it.
Even if not used, I think it does not harm to have this information on a map. There's a lot of information that I find less useful than climbing routes so I would not worry about that too much. Climbing routes don't change that often. Or at least not as often as kebab kiosks.
I believe it generally helps make the sport more accessible and popular. Which should also result in more people getting the actual guides to get full topos of the routes (or use sites like Bergsteigen). Seeing a climbing crag on a map would give one an idea that climbing in that region is possible, eventually prompting them to look for more information (I'm definitely in that group, for example).
In any case, I'll follow you on OSM as I would definitely like to climb some routes in the Hochschwab area this year. So far I've only done some scrambling on Ebenstein and Feistringturm.

>I am not sure if it makes sense to tag all faces.

Of course not. Just those that have known climbing routes. Meaning somebody has climbed them, suggested a grade, and there is a topo available for other climbers.

Oh, it would be nice if all faces were climbable and had topos available. :)
See, i.e. https://www.bergsteigen.com/touren/klettern/vilya/

Hi! I'm adding the missing climbing tags to some items that are already on the map, or adding new crags and areas for those that are not. I'm adding the data from other public climbing sources. There are a lot of items in OSM that are missing the climbing tags, which were probably agreed-upon later.
With these tags, the items will appear on https://openclimbing.org/ or other renderers which have implemented the new tagging scheme (see Climbing on the wiki).
Ringkamp, here, I've added as a node. I usually add routes and group them into a Crag relation if I'm visiting the area.
If you know some more climbing areas/crags, please do get in touch with me. I'd be happy to add them to the map.
If you're into climbing, you can also add them yourself. I'd be happy to discuss anything about the tagging scheme for climbing as I'm quite interested to get more of it into OSM.

The same is with OpenAndroMaps and Mapy.cz. The few that don't show the areas (Organic Maps, osmapp), don't show sinkholes at all.

Correct, but that's a problem of a renderer, then. In OsmAnd, the sinkholes areas are rendered correctly and that makes a big difference when hiking in a pathless terrain.

Possibly, but that seems like a work-around for a non-existing problem. I don't see a good reason to avoid mapping a sinkhole as an area.