this import was not discussed

the license of the imported data is not compatible, as it is cc-by 4.0

see also https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-April/032245.html

another changeset where parks have been changed to garden where it doesn't apply, see also https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-April/032245.html

this is an undiscussed automatic edit and should likely be reverted

you also deleted the steps on the metro garbatella parking. Please be carefull and don't delete stuff that is there. I have used these stairs today.

you should not delete ways and redraw them, because this obfuscates the history, better modify the existing structures. You also introduced dual carriageways where there is no physical separation (parking access road)

ho notat che hai cambiato parrechi parchi in giardini, qual'è il criterio? Per me questo "giardino" in OSM è un leisure=park
Quale sarebbe il garden:type da applicare qui?

btw.: you are the only one seriously engaging in a discussion about this, for which I am grateful, but it also illustrates my point that there isn't an active mapping community in Venice (unfortunately).

Hello Sputnik,
following our discussion there was some discussion on the Italian mailing list, and not for the first time ;-)
I have update the discussion page of Venice to keep trace of this discussion and former discussions about this topic. I am not sure how well you can understand Italian, but just in case, here's the link:
osm.wiki/Talk:Venezia#Pedestrian_street_or_footway.3F (maybe you can get some clue by employing an online translator if not).
I have also written a message to user:Arlas who apparently was local for some time to Venice (but now is likely not any more). Basically, from what emerged on talk-it, there aren't any active local mappers from the historic centre of Venice, although there are some from the wider region, most of Venice mapping was done by externals. There also doesn't seem to be documentation of this "emerged standard" but in previous discussions, as you can see from the links, there were more people advocating using more than one highway value than there were for using only pedestrian.
Regarding the very narrow streets and ways in Venice, the situation is not so singular as it might seem: there are similar situations in most historic town and village centres in Italy, where accessibility via steps and width de facto prevent vehicles from entering. It is common practice to use footway for this kind of "road". Clearly, calling something a "road" where the width is so narrow that not even two pedestrians can pass, is against common sense and the general understanding of the term "road". These are admittedly even in Venice the minority of ways, but lots are so small that a car would not pass if it could arrive there.
If you have a look at the documentation, highway=pedestrian with area=yes is the common way of mapping any kind of square: "A closed way tagged with highway=pedestrian and area=yes is the common way to map squares and plazas." and there is even specific mention of highway=footway for access: "Often other paths such as highway=footway will connect with the edge of the pedestrian area.", and: "For small paths which are too small for cars to pass (no real streets) use highway=footway instead." from highway=pedestrian
So I don't see any inconsistency with the intended mapping of Venice, I see an inconsistency if we map small paths as highway=pedestrian.
Mapping big roads for pedestrians as highway=pedestrian and small ways for pedestrians as highway=footway is documented and established practice. It makes the map more readable by showing a hierarchy of pedestrian ways (although for the case of Venice there would likely be an advantage of having a third class to get more distinction and to make more sensible renderings in lower zoom levels by hiding unimportant ways earlier).

Ciao, ho notato che hai modificato la classificazione del "Calle del Fontego dei Tedeschi" e del "Ramo del Fontego dei Tedeschi" da footway a pedestrian. Mi sembra una modifica strana. Ci sono stato 4 giorni fa e per me si tratta chiaramente di footway, non hanno l'ampiezza di una strada, sono percorsi più piccoli. Ti chiedo di aiutarci a ripristinare la gerarchia dei spazi e percorsi, tenendo soltanto quelli grandi come pedestrian (e tutte le aree / cortili come highway=pedestrian, area=yes) mentre i percorsi piccoli dovrebbero essere footway.

I do not object to discussions, rather the opposite, I have started one with you and on the national italian mailing list, where I have also asked about local mappers. It just doesn't look as if there is anything like a community of Venetian mappers. People on the Italian mailing list said Venice was still recovering from the license change in 2012, 5 years ago.

Don't worry, I won't continue mapping in Venice now, I was there for some days and used the time to do on the ground surveys and mobile mapping, but have left the city now. I couldn't wait to do this because I knew I would be leaving soon, and I didn't want to waist the time there without having the map benefitting from on the ground verification and modification.

As to the "emerged standard", I will repeat what I have already written above: the emerged standard for highway =pedestrian is that it describes a road. Most of the ways in Venice with this tag aren't roads in any sense, they are very narrow footways with no vehicle traffic whatsoever. Area=yes with highway=pedestrian are highway areas of any kind and size of squares, there is absolutely no problem if these are accessible only by footways, and there is no consistency problem at all if this is the actual situation on the ground, if you believe it is then please explain why.
highway=footway with area=yes would not make any sense semantically, so it is right IMHO that carto osm doesn't support it.

there is no consistency in my eyes if 50cm wide passages where not even 2 pedestrians can pass each other are mapped the same as a some meter wide road. All my changes are the result of surveys I have been doing the past days and I do believe they improve the map so I will not revert them. I think I am improving consistency by applying these changes.

If there's no wide enough way leading to a square it will indeed be impossible for vehicles to reach them, also in reality (typically you won't see vehicles in most of venetian land based ways anyway), but footway in general doesn't automatically imply no vehicle can go there (bicycles and motorcycles might be (exceptionally) permitted by access tags or might ignore legal restrictions, emergency vehicles could pass anywhere where space is sufficient, etc.)

if I ever will go to Japan, I guess I will complain about their highway classification as well, Venice is simply much more important for me (I'm going there sometimes and am living in Italy).

I think pedestrian + area=yes is not comparable to pedestrian as a linear way. I do not complain for it being used for all the small squares (and believe it is in line with the wiki and common practice), quite the opposite: many of them aren't mapped yet, and those that are have often mapped their topology wrong (they do not share borders with the surrounding buildings but leave a "gap of undefinition"/suggest to have something between them and the buildings. This is another frequent problem with the mapping here (I'm in Venice at the moment).

The question of the red dots (or gray in case of private streets and alleys) is a decision of the ism-carto rendering style, which might or not change in the future.

Regarding your comments on the local community: I guess it is quite small (judging from the state of the map and contributions to talk-it, and also from the replies to my post regarding the pedestrian problem), maybe there's noone or max. a handful actually from Venice, the rest has been mapped by tourists and people from the region but not really local to the historic city

I agree that this is not referring to you particularly.

thank you for your reply. I am indeed reaching out to the Italian mailing list because I believe it is a very bad decision to tag whatever way as pedestrian highway, a tag that is globally defined. Basically this questionable decision is completely removing any highway hierarchy in Venice and leading to bad results for all data consumers, particularly rendering. It is against any common sense to add a 50cm wide way as pedestrian road. I don't believe it is possible for a local community to distort and stretch the meaning of globally used highway tags so much as it is in this case.

This changeset set footways to pedestrian which are true footways judging by width. This only makes the map less readable and useful, please revert

This changeset set narrow footways to pedestrian, which aren't actually roads for pedestrians but true footways

Via Montefalcone non poteva essere unita, perché aveva proprietà diverse su alcuni tratti (maxheight, oneway)

mi sembra un po' un caso di tagging for the renderer: osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
perché un prato non esiste lì?