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128084911

Your just starting out, so mistakes will be made. Safest not to use any source other than OSM provides via the editors through satellite imagery. Using the approved data listed on the Australian_Data_Sources page is ok, but is better with some experience. Best source is personal survey.
Using webpages data .. well you have to search their webpage for copyright information and that can be qu8ite tedious. Telstra will not respond quickly.. so of the applications to others have taken a year .. or more. Safest if this data is removed. Sorry about that.

128033403

>s> they can only complain if you delete it .. then you point to the lack of communication .. and that the thing will never be built. Don't be afraid of getting into trouble.. just be fair and you'll be fine.

128033403

Ok, not mapping skills but tagging ... the OSM wiki is your friend.
Use the page
osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix

See under proposed: .. high likelihood of being constructed .. it fails that test .. so it should not be mapped ... contact the mapper and let them know.. wait a while (at least 2 weeks) if no response .. just delete it.

That OSM page has a search box at the top right .. use that to find stuff.

Good Luck.

128033403

??? 'uncleared road' means what?

It was never made or has been demolished?

tag it with a 'life cycle prefix' ..

See osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix

127954735

The tags of disused and abandoned look to render on the OSM standard maop ... at least as far as I can see..

127954735

I'm waiting for the list comments to die off and then suberise there .. leave that for a while to see if there are any comments on my summary and then add information to the OSM wiki .. contact ORM ...

Note I have just made some more railway corrections to the ferry terminal (along with parking etc)
A timelapse of the destruction/construction is https://ms-my.facebook.com/geelongadvertiser/videos/timelapse-corio-quay-taking-shape-for-spirit-of-tasmania/578741390375654/

127996285

Hi

The 'basketball' is actually netball, a very popular sport in Australia. Changed.

128033832

Hi,
Welcome to OSM...

The relation for Quealy Winery is not 'closed' so it does not form an area. See relation/14729792

Both members of the relation have no other tags .. so they can be combined into one way .. and that single way can then be closed to form an area. Once that is done the tags from the relation can be transferred to the single way and then the relation deleted...

That make sense?

128033403

Hi
This changeset has be partially reverted to restore the Tutanning Nature Reserve relation.

This means that way/963923959 has been restore to its previous location and that the tag highway=track has been removed from it. This way is the boundary for the Nature Reserve. It is not a track over its entire length.

Suggestion? Map the track as a new way without using the existing way?

109450424

Hi,
I have made some changes to the cycle/foot way with the new Tasmanian ferry. Would be good if you could have a look at it .. in particular the railway crossings at the southern end .. one of them could now be razed?

128021207

Hi,

The DCS Imagery has beeter resolution than the Bing Imagery, so I'd use that in preference to Bing.

Relation 14728687 has an error, the outer ways cannot touch. As a house it would be one structure so should have a simple single way. If you want to indicate the separate roof structures that would be entered as 'building:part=roof layer=1 roof:shape=* roof:colour=*
roof:material=*

See building:part=*

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I have left the bad relation for you to fix... if you need help, ask.

127954735

And now
"Once there is no real risk of remapping them by person thinking that this objects are still existing such elements should be deleted from OSM."
osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix

127954735

Oh ..
osm.wiki/Demolished_Railway#What_is_sufficient_to_map_a_former_railway

Much of this is the case of "without any traces whatsoever. Not mappable. " ...

127954735

The 'standard map' (for OSM editing) does show the disused and abandoned. I have no idea for other renders.

However when I down load an area to map it .. the razed etc are also downloaded.
This is a problem when people try to map new things, the old things lead to mapping things that never existed like railway=crossing where a new footway/highway is also mapped over a now non existent railway line.
People mapping new things may not see the old stuff on the new imagery .. and simply delete it, leading to edit wars.
People map things like an old embankment for old railway lines .. right through existing roads

A possible reason for these tags of things that no longer exist is for use in OHM, I have suggested making a change to the OSM wiki to state a 'recommendation that these things be move to OHM'.

71246077

I can usually find the soccer goals .. even without nets. Not visible in Bing, Esri .. arr there they are in Mapbox.. I did miss them .. thanks now mapped.

127954735

I have raise the question of why the tag razed (and others) exist in OSM on the talk list, I have suggest that the OSM wiki recommend moving things with these tags to OHM.

127954735

Repeat...

Most of these tracks are no longer here... why have you mapped them as 'disused' and 'abandoned'?

The only section that I can see with some existence are on the peir, as there don't connect with anything I'd think ruins may be the best OSM description of them.. personally - remnants?

127954735

Many of these no longer exist. Tagging them 'disused' and 'abandoned' means they are still there... and that is not the case.. they are gone, vaporized, vanished, no trace...

73990841

The change set states the source as LPI (now DCS) Imagery...
Six maps is the commercial arm of LPI/DCS .. and the source for the names tagged on the ways is Six maps.. I think that is an error and you used the LPI Base Map .. as that is what is available within OSM editors.

Please be carefull when stating the source .. and state the source really used ..

127963809

Hi,

There are several problems ...

Example: relation/14723626 One outer way intersect with another outer way... Outer ways should not cross one another..
See https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=144.99877&lat=-38.32423&zoom=19&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways

For the rest .. well you can see them here https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=144.99977&lat=-38.32261&zoom=16&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways

Work on one of them, the above site updates daily .. so check it is 'correct' the next day .. and if you have it right then do the rest of them... well that is what I'd do.