I informed the cartographer Павел Гетманцев about revert

Ukrainian community has been working for a long time according to the scheme that it deleted.
You can look in any sector of Ukraine and see what admin level = 9 or 8 is used (in the old schema) in small towns and villages.

Revert

a cartographer from a community of another state must ask permission
A cartographer from another state does not know the situation on the ground
you do not have knowledge of national legislation of Ukraine and laws of local authorities

I therefore ask you not to touch the boundary at all
I also recommend mapping the territory that you are familiar with, that is, the locality in the Russian Federation.

I am 100% sure that you have not mapped all the objects in the territory where you live
Ask your community what useful I can do in terms of mapping the Russian Federation.

kYIV kIEV TWO NAMES

Kyiv in alt name will not be at all in Italian and French and Catalan
Forget about it --- the conversation about it is already finished, there is no longer anything to discuss
, we can make two names Kyiv Kyiv --- a good compromise

You did not expect that there will be some examples from Kyiv

After getting acquainted with Kyiv, you just don’t want to admit that Kyiv is a normal translation.
The peculiarity of our project is ignoring the databases of laws of international law
Take for example the mapping of disputed territories: there is written de facto political status
For example, Kosovo, its independence from Serbia will be taken very little, but in our project it is an independent state
Also here: there is confirmation of the use of the Ukrainian name and it is provided to you. On the situation in Kosovo, I showed that the majority opinion our project allows to ignore in order to observe on ground
Required miser granted
I see our discussion ending in the spring when, after quiet winter evenings, spring will come which will bring corrective lifestyle (for example, regular girls in nature, farm work)
I remind you: there is no ban on Kyiv in the DWG text

you only have an argument I don't want

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street with two controversial names
Річкова and Н Сосніної
note https://translate.google.es/?hl=uk#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%A3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0%20%D1%81%D0%BE%20%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%BC%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%BC.%20%D0%97%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5%20%D0%B2%20%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85%20%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0%20%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B7%D1%83%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F%20%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%20%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC.%20%D0%94%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%2C%20%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%20%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BC%20%2C%20%D0%91%D0%A2%D0%98%2C%20%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%20%D0%A3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%20%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%22%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%20%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%A1%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8B%22%20%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B7%D1%83%D1%8E%D1%82%202-%D0%BE%D0%B5%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5.

.Street with a controversial name. Recorded in the documents of the village council is used only by the village council.(village council =alevvald , vald in Estonia ) StateLandcadastre, payment of social benefits, BTI (=Bureau of Technical Land Inventory)
, State Register of Streets State Register Enterprises StateInformSistems uses the second name

the street has at the same time two official streets with the same authority status
Houses have two official street names at the same time.

The Migration Service of Ukraine gave people a passport of a citizen of Ukraine and on 11 pages they wrote that a person lives on the street with the name number 1
when a resident of the village goes with this passport in the village council = alevvald, vald in Estonia, the emu issue two certificates of family composition. Because the local authority does not know what name is needed at the moment
when a person goes to the local

read the answer from dwg
your requirements are not there
 
I provided the necessary number of links
I remind you: you are not a map
you can not deny kyiv because "I don’t like or I don’t care how many links you will find"
you can not ban Kyiv by inventing absurd requirements
 

Read your full text in this discussion.;
you only had a criticism of name: nl and two more languages ​​such as Wikipedia do not have any information about Kyiv

My position is this: I have provided the right amount on many topics of use and you have no reason to ban

Tomorrow I will provide the rest of the languages ​​or if I do not find the rest, based on the situation, the book will be only Russian or two at the same time

I remind you: you have not yet introduced me to the international rule for the communities of all countries of the planet Earth, which prohibits two names, now there is only your desire without evidence of rightness.

Tomorrow I am at work until 18:00 GMT
I'll look for other languages ​​at bedtime

CATALAN NAME:CA
https://www.diaridegirona.cat/esports/futbol/europa-league/2018-2019/dynamo-kyiv-fc-astana-62018_01_01_2018194_20183751.html
https://www.racocatala.cat/noticia/6606/andorra-comenca-promocionar-se-preparar-lactuacio-kyiv-leurovisio-2005
https://cartesipostalsdarreu.blogspot.com/2018/08/sant-andreu-de-kyiv.html
http://ca.alumnieeni.com/ua_ct.asp

http://cadenaser.com/emisora/2018/03/07/sercat/1520439445_552419.html
http://www.cttborges.com/el-dkv-borges-vall-senfrontara-al-fortune-kyiv-ducraina-als-16ens-de-final-de-la-ettu-cup/
http://www.eurobloc.cat/?cat=1321

name:it
https://culturaestero.regione.emilia-romagna.it/it/notizie/ucraina-le-vie-dellamicizia-ravenna-kyiv
http://www.viaggiatori.net/turismoestero/Ucraina/clima/Kyiv
https://lospiegone.com/2018/10/21/sulla-strada-per-kyiv-in-viaggio-tra-le-due-anime-ucraine/
https://www.ihg.com/destinations/it/it/ukraine/kyiv-hotels
https://www.vvox.it/2018/11/27/crisi-russia-ucraina-kyiv-introduce-legge-marziale/
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv_Mohyla
https://www.goeuro.it/viaggi/verona/kyiv
https://www.radio.it/s/kyiv
http://www.caminoaltagliamento.org/coro-accademia-teologica-di-kyiv/
http://testicanzoni.mtv.it/testi-Oskar-Schuster_13986046/testo-Kyiv-70068209
https://books.google.it/books?id=u6lb6_voI4gC&pg=PA333&lpg=PA333&dq=kyiv&source=bl&ots=3UKLFq0Gpq&sig=nsmpkTYLF4O-vqcImkkjEbC_lTs&hl=it&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwid_d24iKrfAhUOposKHY6HBmA4MhDoATAGegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=kyiv&f=false
https://www.diretta.it/squadra/chayka-kyiv-sviatoshyn/GnGcS5fh/

FRENCH French --- a lot of examples even have a sport

I found it looked just three pages of Google search results country France in French In other countries where FRENCH I did not search and this is Canada Switzerland Belgium

https://www.nuitsdefourviere.com/programme/terabak-de-kyiv
https://fr.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2398200.html
https://www.infoclimat.fr/observations-meteo/temps-reel/kyiv-kiev/33345.html?graphiques
https://fr-fr.roomlala.com/chambre-a-louer/UA-Ukraine/kyiv
http://www.abb.fr/References/Default.aspx?db=db/db0004/db001502.nsf&c=666f855c0d1b1d37c12575a7003c4336

Italian spanish catalan dam today till 23 00

French is returned because Kyiv is in Michelin .com
Michelin.com is a famous cartographic site in France.
Italian is returned because the Senate of Italy used Kyiv in its decision (a link to the site senato it is in our discussion
In this way, the question of name fr and name it is closed.
In the evening I will provide evidence for the rest of the languages.
According to those for which there will be little evidence --- we will discuss the option of two titles

French is returned because Kyiv is in Michelin .com
Michelin.com is a famous cartographic site in France.
Italian is returned because the Senate of Italy used Kyiv in its decision (a link to the site senato it is in our discussion
In this way, the question of name fr and name it is closed.
In the evening I will provide evidence for the rest of the languages.
According to those for which there will be little evidence --- we will discuss the option of two titles

I left in Estonian kiiev

For each language you need to communicate separately. only having communicated on each language - it is possible to make the decision on rollback or not rollback

Mr. Pikse without permission did revert
he replayed the answer text with
tomorrow morning everything will be returned
Only the Russian name KIIEV will remain in Estonian because I only found the use of Ukrainian names on the Internet 1 time.

Mr Pikse started the wrong behavior, demonstrates disregard to the participants of the discussion and the words of the response from the DWG by rolling back from

the DWG text that is in that discussion, you personally did not have permission to revert

According to that answer --- I must provide examples of use by foreigners

The discussion is not over yet --- therefore you have no reason to have this rollback
How can you remove kyiv in French Catalan Italian --- if you didn’t require confirmation of real use at all.

In addition, we have not finished the discussion on the use of two titles.
You could not give me a rule where it is written that two names are prohibited
 

Since you are an Estonian - I leave the Russian name Kiiev

all other languages ​​I return kyiv

The DWG answer was not that KYIV is a mistake
According to the DWG answer, you can request confirmation of Kyiv’s use by foreigners.

I expect such a question from you for each language.

Tomorrow morning I return Kyiv in all languages ​​except Estonian.

Sorry for the distorted name typed translation in dicter.ru

Mr Pixie should pay attention to what the DWG answer was about finding an example of using abroad (there was an example of using Estonian in Kojiv)

as well as the inadmissibility of using events in Ukraine as an argument for Kyiv Kojiv /

use of two names has been used in name for a long time therefore name et will look fine
The procedure for banning two names in name: xx does not exist at all at the level of the entire project. There are only local restrictions. Kiiv city is not included in this location.
It seems to me that it is necessary to discuss from which side Kojiv will be written to name: et, and Kiiev

About two names: it is impossible to prohibit something which is not in the list of prohibited according to the rules
 or in plain language: if the Criminal Code does not prohibit any action, this action is allowed.

Two names is a normal practice. It will close the editorial war.
At the beginning of the discussion I gave an example of using the Estonian translation of kojiv

using Kojiv 1 time is enough to have Kojiv Kiiev in name: et

There is no official ban on two transfers.
Such a ban exists only at the community level such as Russian.
There is no such ban in the Ukrainian community.

I propose to make a compromise decision that everyone will like
The essence of the compromise is to record two translations into languages ​​simultaneously.
for example in Estonian it will look like Kojiv Kiiev
In German Kyjiw Kiew
and so it is identical in the languages ​​that I fixed
I believe that this option will satisfy everyone and the discussion will be over.
Returning back of the Russian name Kiev is a violation of the rules on ground
The rule on the ground cannot be violated due to the fact I propose to make a compromise decision that everyone will like
The essence of the compromise is to record two translations into languages ​​simultaneously.
for example in Estonian it will look like Kojiv Kiiev
In German Kyjiw Kiew
and so it is identical in the languages ​​that I fixed
I believe that this option will satisfy everyone and the discussion will be over.
Returning back of the Russian name Kiev is a violation of the rules on ground
The rule on the ground cannot be violated due to the fact that in some countries they decided to simplify their lives and decided to create maps of Ukraine by transliteration from the Russian language.
and copying Russian maps and Russian geographic registries, or the conditions are such that the cartographic business is completely captured and belongs only to emigrants from Russia. It is not surprising that they will only issue cards with Russian names and this can last for a very long time. A striking example of this is Estonia, where the distribution of Ukrainian names at the level of the cartographic business and national science is completely blocked (the Estonian Institute of Slavic Studies ignores in its registers and databases the fact that the Kyiv translation appears in some European languages ​​also ignores the translation of the real name into Chinese Jifu (written in pinyin).Previously, the Chinese translation was Jiefu, that is, it was based on the Russian name Kiev

.