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179004935

You have tagged the ways as horse racing tracks ( leisure=track + sport=horse_racing ); but a horse cannot race on such small circles or areas, therefore I think sport=horse_racing is wrong here and it should rather be sport=equestrian . And If not only the mapped way can be used for riding, but also the inner area, then leisure=pitch is more appropriate than leisure=track. (Just my opinion)

Ukrainian example: osm.org/query?lat=50.705273&lon=34.696552#map=19/50.705282/34.696781&layers=P

If something is no longer used, you can use the prefix "disused", see disused:=** (But then it will no longer be rendered on the maps.)

179004935

Hi,
way/1482650093 and way/1482650096 are too small for racecourses. These areas look like riding arenas and in then should be tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian instead, like way/1175887026 , see also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

178685992

Hi,
way/1479804868 does not look like a horse riding centre ( leisure=horse_riding ); it looks like a horse riding arena, similar to way/1019077795 ( leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian ); see also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) . The arena probably belongs to https://haraslarebatiere.ffe.com/ which could be mapped as a separate object (node or area) with tag leisure=horse_riding .

178536418

Hi,
way/1478514107 is not a horse riding centre; it is a horse riding arena and should be tagged like this one: way/1384040097 . See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) . In JOSM you can use the preset for sport=equestrian to tag them.

178200716

Traduzione automatica:

Non so se way/1477377238 sia davvero un campo di equitazione ( leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian ); nelle diverse immagini aeree appare in modo diverso. Forse si tratta solo di un paddock -> vedi landuse=animal_keeping . Per il resto sembra corretto. Si tratta di https://www.facebook.com/iltorello14 ?

178268234

Hi,
way/1475270529 is not a horse riding centre (leisure=horse_riding ). is is a horse riding arena, like way/501700772 ( leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian ). See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

178200716

Hi,
way/1474819805 and way/1474819806 don't look like horse riding centres ( leisure=horse_riding ): they look more like a round pen and a horse riding arena. These are usually tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian , see
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) and
way/1241327623#map=19/42.193689/13.514314&layers=P (example)

Traduzione automatica:

Ciao,
way/1474819805 e way/1474819806 non sembrano centri di equitazione (leisure=horse_riding): sembrano piuttosto un recinto circolare e un maneggio. Questi sono solitamente contrassegnati con leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, vedi
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) e
way/1241327623#map=19/42.193689/13.514314&layers=P (esempio)

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177930140

Hi,
Isn't way/1472956013 a riding arena like way/1433742120 (tags leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian instead of leisure=horse_riding )?

177235966

Hi,
was ist way/1467140140 für eine Fläche? Es sieht mir nicht nach einer Reitanlage ( leisure=horse_riding ) aus. Das hier ist z.B. eine Reitanlage: way/24496203. Wie ein Reitplatz sieht es auch nicht aus. Ist es vielleicht so was wie auf landuse=animal_keeping beschrieben?

177069281

Hi,
way/1466048570 ist keine Reitanlage (siehe wiki leisure=horse_riding ). Das ist eine Führanlage (siehe wiki animal=horse_walker ). Hast du schon mal jemanden in einer Führanlage reiten sehen?

(Wir hatten das Thema schon früher diskutiert: changeset/138395035)

177051760

Hi,
way/1465790788 sieht nicht aus wie eine Reitanlage gemäß leisure=horse_riding . Sieht aus wie ein Reitplatz. Sollte dann besser mit leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian getaggt werden. Vgl. osm.wiki/DE:How_to_map_a/R#Reitstall und way/24720573#map=17/47.854408/11.181056&layers=P (Beispiel).
Kann man in JOSM mit dem Preset für "Pferdesport" taggen.

176694876

Hi,
Shouldn't way/1463391108 be tagged like way/1460910585 ?

176625635

See also https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/2629

176625635

It seems that you have already fixed most of the cases where you previously created the duplicate mapped horse riding centres. Thank you very much.

I read the Wikipedia page about CoMaps that you linked to, but i still don't understand what problem you were trying to solve with your edits. According to taginfo, CoMaps does not yet support the tag leisure=horse_riding (see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/projects/comaps#tags). Perhaps this is the reason for your problem, I don't know. However, this was already reported to them a few weeks ago, see https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/2822. If they add it, your problem may perhaps be dolved. That probably depends on whether your problem occurs specifically with leisure=horse_riding or with POIs in general that are mapped as areas.

If you think you have found a bug in CoMaps, please report it there (https://www.comaps.app/fr/community/). If they fix it, that is much better than changing the map data to work around it, as the problem will then be fixed worldwide and not just in your region.

Traduction automatique :

Il semble que vous ayez déjà corrigé la plupart des cas où vous aviez précédemment créé des centres équestres en double. Merci beaucoup.

J'ai lu la page Wikipédia sur CoMaps que vous avez mise en lien, mais je ne comprends toujours pas quel problème vous essayiez de résoudre avec vos modifications. Selon taginfo, CoMaps ne prend pas encore en charge la balise leisure=horse_riding (voir https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/projects/comaps#tags). C'est peut-être la raison de votre problème, je ne sais pas. Cependant, cela leur a déjà été signalé il y a quelques semaines, voir https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/2822. S'ils l'ajoutent, votre problème sera peut-être résolu. Cela dépend probablement du fait que votre problème se pose spécifiquement avec leisure=horse_riding ou avec les POI en général qui sont cartographiés sous forme de zones.

Si vous pensez avoir trouvé un bug dans CoMaps, veuillez le signaler ici (https://www.comaps.app/fr/community/). S'ils le corrigent, ce sera bien mieux que de modifier les données cartographiques pour contourner le problème, car celui-ci sera alors résolu dans le monde entier et pas seulement dans votre région.

176625635

I don't understand you. Which information does not appear and where does it not appear? What exacty is annoying?

176625635

Hi,
Today you have retagged 16 equestarian centres that were mapped as areas (closed ways), moving the name from the way to a new node. The changesets contain a comment such as “... pour info sur CoMaps.” These changes have led to a duplication of the equestrian centers (area + node) and thus contradict the generally accepted rule “One feature, one OSM element” (osm.wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#Un_item,_un_objet_OSM).

You can add new equestarian centers as nodes, that is no problem. However, you should not add additional nodes for equestarian centers that are already mapped as areas. There should only be one object with the tag leisure=horse_riding for each equestarian center, as we don't want to have more equestarian centers in OSM than in reality.

Why did you do that? What is the problem with CoMaps? (I have never used it). What do you think about correcting these duplications?

These are the changesets:
changeset/176625635 (2 cases)
changeset/176625965 (1 case, just node added)
changeset/176626328 (1 case)
changeset/176627477 (1 case)
changeset/176628183 (1 case)
changeset/176628751 (1 case)
changeset/176629576 (1 case)
changeset/176630217 (1 case)
changeset/176630581 (1 case)
changeset/176630811 (1 case)
changeset/176641394 (1 case)
changeset/176642332 (1 case)
changeset/176643547 (1 case)
changeset/176643764 (1 case)
changeset/176644473 (1 case)
changeset/176644919 (1 case)

Traduction automatique :

Bonjour,
Aujourd'hui, vous avez retagué 16 centres équestres qui étaient cartographiés en tant que zones (voies fermées), en déplaçant le nom de la voie vers un nouveau nœud. Tous les ensembles de modifications contiennent un commentaire tel que « ... pour info sur CoMaps ». Cependant, vous ne devez pas ajouter de nœuds supplémentaires pour les centres équestres qui sont déjà cartographiés en tant que zones. Il ne devrait y avoir qu'un seul objet avec la balise leisure=horse_riding pour chaque centre équestre, car nous ne voulons pas avoir plus de centres équestres dans OSM que dans la réalité.

Pourquoi avez-vous fait cela ? Quel est le problème avec CoMaps ? (Je ne l'ai jamais utilisé). Que pensez-vous de la correction de ces doublons ?

Voici les ensembles de modifications:
changeset/176625635 (2 cases)
changeset/176625965 (1 case, just node added)
changeset/176626328 (1 case)
changeset/176627477 (1 case)
changeset/176628183 (1 case)
changeset/176628751 (1 case)
changeset/176629576 (1 case)
changeset/176630217 (1 case)
changeset/176630581 (1 case)
changeset/176630811 (1 case)
changeset/176641394 (1 case)
changeset/176642332 (1 case)
changeset/176643547 (1 case)
changeset/176643764 (1 case)
changeset/176644473 (1 case)
changeset/176644919 (1 case)

36447693

Thanks for the explanation. leisure=pitch still seems inappropriate to me for the entire area. To my knowledge, this is normally only used for areas where a sport is practiced, but not for such large areas that also contain many service roads and buildings. That's also what it says on the wiki page. In Australia, landise=recreation_ground is often used for racecourses. Maybe that would work here too. I don't know. In any case, I won't change the tags. Sorry for the inconvenience.

176422929

Thank you as well.

176372605

Oh,, I just saw that you retagged way/1444237933 from keisure=pitch + sport=equestrian to leisure=horse_riding with comment "More appropiate tagging of horse pitch" .You must have misunderstood me. I can clearly see in Bing etc. that it is a riding arena. Since you allowed me to retag the arenas to my liking (and to what the wiki recommends), I have retagged it back: changeset/176460995

176436619

Hi,
double mapping of equestrian centre was a bad idea imho, see osm.wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#Un_item,_un_objet_OSM