Ik ben in Hulst geweest en van deze changeset kloppen inderdaad een paar dingen niet. Zie ook https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=842350

Interesting. I'll check it out as soon as I'm behind my pc. Thanks for the notification :)

That's a loose guideline rather than a hard rule, and there are other ways to validate map changes.

This changeset is not huge, it's only 95 changes within a very narrow theme.

I'm sorry to have inconvenienced you with this changeset, but there is nothing wrong with the content.

Thank you for picking up that task.

We're talking about 95 trees with deprecated tags here. Why would I discuss this again?

Thank you, ouleyang, for your contribution. If I can be of help with similar cleanups, I'm happy to lend you a hand.

Also, I would like to echo Mundilfari's message. You said that well.

Please excuse me for mistakenly press "upload all" instead of "upload selection"

Hoi TauvicR,

Het lijkt erop dat je hier een import hebt uitgevoerd zonder consensus van de Nederlandse OSM-gemeenschap. Zou je deze wijziging aub terug willen draaien en deel willen nemen aan de forumdiscussie per https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=73583 ?

Alvast bedankt,

Casper

Dear Johnny Mapperseed,

It is a requirement of OSM that every community member communicates with fellow mappers, especially other local mappers who wish to discuss the quality of a changeset. Please consider my message a reminder that Korgi1 wishes to discuss some mapping practices with you.

Best regards,

Casper

Hoi CartoKees. Dankje voor je wijziging hier. Ik heb zelf best veel wijzigingen in en om Bennekom uitgevoerd, maar je hebt goed opgemerkt dat ik aan de dorpsranden wat details gemist heb.

Hey Lee. If you don't have anything productive to add, then I suggest that you map something instead.

Dear Lee Carré,

Your personal accusations don't mean anything to me either. That long message you sent me earlier was a lot more constructive, though, so I don't mind replying to that properly when I have the time.

Best regards

Casper

Hello Minh Nguyen

It's an interesting thought and I've already considered it. What you propose means that I have to check the same tags 50 times, which is an awful lot of extra work, and people would still complain that my changesets cover entire states while the clusters are in cities. My workflow would be slowed by a factor 50 and nothing would be gained from it.

These changes are very simple to scale up and uploading them in one changeset means that everyone only has to look at the changes once. Considering how many more of these tags exist globally, scaling up the only feasible way to do much-needed updates like this.

Best regards

Casper

Thank you, tekim, for consisely explaining the procedure to me. That looks very reasonable and I'll use that approach for my next large edit.

Dear G1asshouse,

To change the topic back to the original constructive discussion, I am still eager to know how you would approach and resolve the issue that OSM contains a large quantity of redundant and duplicate data.

Best regards

Casper

Dear G1asshouse,

Your personal accusations mean nothing to me.

Best regards

Casper

@Korgi1

1. There's no point in playing the victim. You know as well as everybody else that OSM in general prefers British spelling over American spelling. You can also compare former color=* usage (see this changeset) with https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/colour#chronology . You'll find the same trend for other keys where GB & US spelling differ.

2. That's not eurocentric, that's a global thing. See https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/colour#map for reference.

@G1asshouse

> The mailing list is the agreed upon final community discussion location. Just because you've isolated yourself with like-minded people, on discord, does not make it an appropriate alternative to the mailing list.

I find it funny that you think I have “isolated myself with like-minded people”, because it shows your lack of familiarity with the Discord server. You’re very welcome to join it and participate in discussions and chatter.

I’m absolutely not bringing every tag change I make to the mailing lists. What’s the threshold for contacting them? Ten changes, a hundred, a thousand? Getting bogged down in bureaucracy would mean that none of us will have any time left to just map. I’m sure you wouldn’t mail them for a tag change from highway=Residental to highway=residential, I’m doing exactly the same except I’m doing it on a larger scale.

> My point that you do not know if there are OSM editors whom prefer to tag with color instead.

I don’t need to know that. What you, I and all other mappers need to know is that color and colour mean 100% exactly the same, that OSM has a guideline to choose British over American English, that colour is many times as popular as color and that data/map users find our data more useful if it is consistent. I contributed to that in this changeset and others and you're very welcome.

> "You are still free to continue to use or interpret this tag as you see fit"

I interpret this tag as a tagging mistake or deprecated variant of roof:shape=* and I use it to find roof shapes for buildings and building parts.

How (else) would you interpret it?

Dear DeBigC,

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding with my abrupt changes. My apologies for causing conflicts in your edits and for not consulting the Irish community beforehand. I'll be very sure to do that next time I'm planning large edits specifically in and around Ireland.

If you wish to join a broader discussion about the legitimacy of similar map edits, there's currently an OSM-Talk mailing list discussion going under the title "[OSM-talk] Mechanical Edit?", sparked by another changeset that I created.

Best regards

Casper