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71077853

In regard to maintainability: As you already pointed out upon changes to a line (like opening of finished segments) we always need to update both individual nodes and ways as well as the accompanying relation. So it's just the question which is the cleaner way to capture the elements of the members of a route. As I said earlier I think it is not correct for the route "HarbourFront <-> Punggol" to include elements that go beyond this section, even if they are tagged as inactive. Also for data consumers it's easier to tell that a "construction:route" / "planned:route" / "proposed:route" relation is actually a whole route section that is not active (and most likely discard it). This can of course also be realized by using the lifecycle prefix on member roles. So in the end it's just a question of taste and preference.

If it's easier for you to maintain the routes with tagging members we can re-tag Singapore accordingly.

70653062

I think it makes sense to tag network as the modality and operator as Transport for NSW.
I have updated the source document for the Subway Validator to cover light rail and trains as well. Should be included in tomorrows run and then we can work through the list of routes and stations to update :)

71018064

I agree with you wholeheartedly. This combination of monorail and APM has been practiced in OSM data for years though. So if we come up with a new tagging variant it should be a distinct improvement covering more variations like the air cushion funicular at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorfbahn_Serfaus or the cable propelled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniMetro
One could even argue that these should not even belong within the railway=* tagging group and instead form something like transit=* - For simplicity of the tagging I would suggest to keep them inside railway.

The simplest would be to just summarize all these different movers as railway=people_mover and then specify further via people_mover:type=automatic or people_mover:type=funicular

55288581

No. I've deleted it meanwhile

70653062

I see. It would help if there was consistent network=* tagging applied on the Sydney Trains. I can see one of the two:
- TNSW - Sydney Transport
- Sydney Transport
Most routes are consistently tagges with operator=Sydney Trains
Judging by the articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_for_NSW#Public_transport_services and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Trains
I wonder if the network name shouldn't be "Sydney Trains" consistently. I guess it's a question of whether you look at the network from a modal level ("Sydney Metro", "Sydney Trains", "Sydney Light Rail") or as the intermodal overarching public transport network ("Transport for NSW" or just "Transport").
Once you have picked a consistent network tag I can set them up in the Validator as well

70653062

It can include other mass transit routes as well. Are you thinking of Sydney light rail?Any other networks in the Sydney area that could be included? I will update the document then.

52976806

We discussed this in Telegram chat a while ago and Line 2B extension has its own relation with proposed:route tag

71077853

See these changes applied here:
changeset/71131794

71077853

The North East Line MRT currently operates from the Souther Terminus HarbourFront to Punggol. That's what the active route relation should cover. It would be quite odd to include the extension section to Punggol Coast which is planned to open no earlier than 2023 in a route relation that has Punggol as endpoint.

The public transport route model in OpenStreetMap says that multiple line/service variations are linked via a route_master relation. I suggest to add a route:construction relation for the segment from Punggol to Punggol Coast and add this route to the route_master.

70653062

Anytime.
I assume you are aware of the OSM subway validator which helps to keep public transport tagging correct and complete: http://osm-subway.maps.me/index.html

66315740

Seems I fell for a trap of some "funny" mapping there. There used to be a node on that location which I spotted when reviewing some religion tagging mistakes: node/6094463057/history
I moved that information to the way. At least this change helped surface the wrong data and you could fix it. Thanks for correcting this.

67104723

You are welcome. Looking after each other is what makes OSM data quality constantly improve.

66688457

Yes, they are "a millenarian restorationist Christian denomination with nontrinitarian beliefs distinct from mainstream Christianity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

See also the listing within christian denomination values in OSM: religion=christian

66532617

Thanks for fixing the operator tag. I was following information I could follow on the home page back then.
Will also reach out to better understand why you are not tagging as light_rail

66300510

Sorry for the late reply. Are you relying on these meta-relations that act as collections of objects?
What's your use case? I am happy to help finding a better alternative. Relations in OSM are not intended for this usage and hard to maintain.
Quote: "[Relations] are not designed to hold loosely associated but widely spread items. It would be inappropriate, for instance, to use a relation to group 'All footpaths in East Anglia'." from osm.wiki/Relation

65019371

I have no idea. It was a name already tagged on the road and since I was only working to fix geometry errors and I couldn't tell or disprove that's a correct name I simply left it untouched.

71018064

I agree that it would be beneficial if we had a more detailed tag variation to capture APMs, but current mapping pratcie in OSM is to use monorail tagging for guided transport systems like most APMs:
Quote: "railway=monorail - Also used for monorail-like automated people-mover systems" from osm.wiki/Railways
Quote: "Mappers may also want to include driver-less systems that occur within some big airports for terminal transfer." from railway=monorail

The thinking behind this being that most - like Sengkang LRT - feature a central guiding rail and therefor have just one rail == monorail.
Have you thought about investing some time to form a proposal to capture diferent forms of APMs? Maybe we can collaborate?

70717608

Hi Michael,
It seems you somehow accodentially deleted the stop positions for the Expo line metro at Gateway stations. I've since added them back. Maybe you were confused because there are multiple station icons showing in your editor, but actually each metro station consists of a station node and stop positions on the actual track where the trains stop.

70379076

Can you please clarify what the "horrible changes" were that you corrected?
In your changeset I see that you re-tagged the unfinished western section of Line 2 from "proposed:*" to opened. Can you share why you did that?

68241379

I verified that it is an assisted living home:
https://www.wohnen-im-alter.de/einrichtung/pflegeheim/schemmerhofen/wohnpark-st-klara-23564