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99321966

do you have a source for this? I don't think this is correct
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99467298

Hi, I've reverted this edit because these two segments of Jerrold Street North and Jerrold Street South are not a motorway.
Your edit breaks routing logic because if these segments of road were a motorway, there would be no way for walkers/cyclists to get on or off this road.

Brougham Street can't suddenly turn into a motorway or it would leave cyclists/walkers/horse riders stuck.

let me know if you've got questions
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99425538

looks good 👍 addresses are often separate from buildings because they were bulk-imported separately, but it's more idiomatic to put the address on the house if it's obvious what belongs to what
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98836972

👍 and thanks for taking the time to improve the map!

98836972

hi, drawing sidewalks parallel to existing streets is only recommended if it's the standard for that region - see osm.wiki/Sidewalks#Regional_conventions

In Auckland/pretty much all of NZ, sidewalks aren't mapped as separate paths (yet?), so if you think this should be changed it probably warrants a discussion first.

If you want to add details about the sidewalk, residential roads are assumed to have sidewalks on both sides - if this is not the case, you can add `sidewalk=left|right|none` to the road (e.g. way/7633942)

Also, you added some paths that cross each other but don't join, and some that are disconnected from the rest of the road network. This makes them useless for routing/directions because the algorithm can't find a way to navigate between them.

98672689

the building name is signposted on-the-ground as Te Wharau o Tāmaki / Auckland House. It is the largest of many Auckland Council offices across the region.

I would suggest naming the building Wharau o Tāmaki / Auckland House like the other offices (e.g. way/380531534, relation/3774811, way/23906750)

If you think splitting the tags makes sense that sounds great. I'm not sure what the best way of tagging it is

98672689

the reason I put `name:mi=Te Wharau o Tāmaki` on the building is because that's the Te Reo name of this office, 'Te Kaunihera o Tāmaki Makaurau' is Te Reo Māori for Auckland Council (as an organisation).

so I think that tag was correct as it was? It's signposted near the low-rise elevators

97959956

great, thanks

97398627

no problem, and thanks for taking the time to improve the map !

97959956

hi, do you know if there are any 🚳🚷 signs along here? because sometimes (e.g. the Waikato Expressway) you can cycle/walk along it in spite of it being a motorway

98396471

i have no idea what this changeset did
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97398627

hi, you tagged this small part of Wairere Drive as a "motorway". Motorway means restricted access, generally characterized by no at-grade intersections, no 🚷🚳, and/or ramp signals.

Has this part of Wairere Drive changed, because last time I was there I think it was just a normal 80km/h road. similar to the Albany Expressway in Auckland. In which case it should be tagged as highway=primary, not motorway
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96716418

Hi @woodpeck, I would welcome further discussion on this topic, where do you suggest that could take place?

98189292

do you think shop=outpost would be appropriate? the problem is you then can't tag it as shop=supermarket...
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96716418

I'm not sure what you mean by "you appear to be using OSM to try to advance an agenda" - I would like to correct an error on the map that is wrong according to all levels of the New Zealand government and on-the-ground signage... i don't see how that is an "agenda", perhaps you could explain what you meant?

Your arguments (1) and (3) reiterate that Taupō is the current and only official name, and the on-the-ground name. You want to use the wrong name in OSM, and your only argument for using the wrong name is that "the most common signage in English (for both commercial businesses and (to a lesser extend) traffic signs) remains 'Taupo'". This statement is partially wrong, very disputable and also rapidly changing,,

Your claim that the old name (Taupo) is still the most common on road signs is also very wrong. All road signs now say 'Taupō'. There are no road signs left with the old name of 'Taupo', except those that were forgotten by the council, and the street signs that were physically vandalized by racists (see https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/wellington/123897512/low-iq-vandalism-kpiti-signs-once-again-targetted-by-macron-meddler for another example), which is sadly very similar to what you're doing on OSM...

96716418

hi @ponamu_nz, You said that the name "should reflect OTG ("on the ground") reality" - Taupō is the more common name, and is used in nearly all official government signage on the ground, both from central and local government. Many local businesses have also updated their signage, while others haven't (yet).

you said "[...] the English-language spelling is not [Taupō] (as the English alphabet does not contain "ō".)" - Taupō is a name in the Te Reo Māori language, not an English word. When a Te Reo Māori name is used in English, it should be written in the only correct way, which is 'Taupō' in this case.

96716418

@woodpeck - the official & only name of the town in English is Taupō, with the macron over the ō. This is the name used by the local government (the Taupō District Council) and central government. This is also the name used in all signage including official government road signs.

This was officially recognized in 2019, and since then, the usage of "Taupo" (without the macron) is being phased out & is no longer correct. see https://tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/over-800-m-ori-place-names-made-official.

This user and a few others continually change place names with macrons like "Taupō" back to "Taupo" and do not engage when comments are left on their changesets

96716418

I've undone this changeset. If you continue to vandalize the map you will receive a user block from the OSMF Data Working Group
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97622466

hmm yes I think I'm wrong, should've researched this properly ... i was going off an old-ish paper map which has "Wainui" printed over where Milldale is ... but as you said, it seems like Wainui is actually the whole area centred on that hamlet. I've undone the change, thanks for checking this !

96155277

yea this makes more sense than neighbourhood. agreed that shifting the coastline + mapping as piers would be the best - but it gets complicated in wynyard quarter - how much of the suburb do you call a wharf? between parts of Jellicoe street and the promenade near VEC it's all built on piles...
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