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Posted by NicRoets on 29 March 2008 in English.

Aka pushing the envelope

Yesterday I cycled 70km+ and given the start-stop nature of mapping, the hilly terrain and the fact that I had to lift my bicycle over numerous fences, it's definitely a new record for me. It's also the first time I filled my Etrex by cycling.

Now I'm uploading the new roads and JOSM frequently gives a "connection timed out" message. It's strange because post the Tiger import we should have lots of spare capacity on the server. I just hope no objects will be duplicated when I restart the upload...

Location: Johannesburg Ward 103, Sandton, City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality, Gauteng, South Africa
Posted by Tomash Pilshchik on 28 March 2008 in English.

Decided to have a look at some lakes and a quarry which I had drawn using the Yahoo images. There are a number of important-sounding roads in the area such as Lower Westfield and Prospect Avenue. In actuality, few of them are passable. The lakes are part of the City of Holyoke water supply. All of the roads thru the area have gates, most of which are closed. Prospect Avenue has a bridge out.

I would like to remove the part of Prospect Avenue where the bridge is out, but getting to it may be difficult since the turn toward the former bridge is closed. I may have to do it on foot. It is not clear what the bridge crosses.

Location: Amostown, West Springfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts, 01089, United States
Posted by netman55 on 28 March 2008 in English.

So its nearly 6 weeks since I started mapping. Time certainly flys while doing this surveying job! Have been covering North West Kent as that is where I'm normally based. Surprising at times what you find when you dive down a road/street that you have not visited before. Some you think, "I may come here sometime again and explore" and other places where you think " mmmm... lets get out of here before my wheels disappear"!

Most of my tracks are done by "driveby surveying" that is using my Navman N40i, which is OK for the raw logs, but as I found out don't trust it for anything else.

I normally whizz round unmapped roads while going onto or from work, to get the roads on the map then return later at leisure to pickup the detail.

So to date I think I've covered all the roads in Cliffe Woods in Kent, some bits of the surrounding areas. One area I've tried to sort out is the new layout at the M25 J2 /A2 junction, but have failed so far, go there by day it's full of traffic (a car park!) or at night its closed because its still being built!

Enough for now,......and before I forget thanks to TimSC for his encouragement email :-)

Background: I'm a retired software engineer and hobby sailor. I downloaded a file from CIL's (Commissioners of Irish Lights) website (www.cil.ie), with their written permission, with tech data about the AtoNs (Aids to Navigation) that they maintain around the Irish coast, approx 80 lighthouses and 200 other navigation marks. I used this to create entries in Google Earth (again with CIL permission), using MS Office to massage the data into GE's KML format.
See GE posting (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/812193)
and GE KMZ download (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=812193)
and in Google Maps at (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=812193&t=k&om=1)

I figured out the parts of KML that I needed by copying several examples from GE and pasting them into Notepad, but I don't see a similar facility in OSM.

I'd like to do a similar job in OSM, but am experiencing some difficulty in figuring out how to do it. I've gone through the FAQs and searched OSM help, but the best answer I can find (yet) is that I should probably use JOSM.

My question:
Part 1: Where can I find the file format, and some examples, for uploading waypoints (rather than tracks)?
Part 2: Can JOSM import bulk text data?

Regards
Dolphin3900

P.S. Some food for thought:

(1) GPS has been popular with sailors for much longer than with motorists/cyclists/trekkers, and I expect that there are plenty sailors with navigation and IT skills that would be interested in these answers.

(2) Maritime Navigators are interested in charts rather than maps, showing what's on (and under) the other 75% of planet earth (the seas), with details like lighthouses, navigation marks, water depth, hazards, tides, currents, harbours, anchorages, bottom type (different anchors for sand and rocks).

(3) Many modern boats can integrate PCs with GPS/radar/depth-sounders/logs(=speedometers)/weather instruments. Tracks that include depth data are common.

See full entry

Location: Bray, Bray No 2 ED, The Municipal District of Bray, County Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland

Jetzt auch Kartendienste zensiert

China ist dabei die Propaganda weiter auszubauen. So gehen die chinesischen Behörden gegen Anbieter von Webseiten oder Weblogs vor, die Google Maps oder Microsoft Virtual Earth auf ihrem Webangebot einbinden. Auch Webseiten und Kartendienste sind betroffen, die Taiwan als "eigenständiges Land" darstellen.

Mehr auf:
http://www.gulli.com/news/china-jetzt-auch-kartendienste-2008-03-27/

Don't get/use a Magellan eXplorist 500 to collect data. At the most detailed setting 0.01 km, I'm limited to 20km of data points. Well lets say having to stop every 20km or so wasn't a bad thing. luckily I was mapping a secondary road that had a town every 10 km or so. So I would save the trace when I got to every new town. The bad part when opening the folder to save the new trace my GPS would get exponentially slower. By the time I had collected 20 trace files it was now taking about 5 minutes to open the folder. At the end of the day it was drive for 15 minutes stop for 5, drive for 15 stop for 5 etc.

It works great for mapping the neighbourhood.

I emailed Magellan support about this issue.

In the mean time I decided to check my google spam mail and guess what I found. Yup the reply from Magellan, go figure? There response was try a 1 gig memory card.

I'm off on another mapping mission in a few days, so we will see what happens. I'm bringing my laptop along this time as a backup data logger for this GPS.

Location: London, Southwestern Ontario, Ontario, Canada
Posted by Steve Chilton on 27 March 2008 in English.

After a meeting today near Waterloo Station I filled in some detail around the station. It is amazing what extra detail you can add in if you get down to it. Shows the disadvantage of trying to map from Y! imagery. There are so many little service roads, stubs, estate roads, and variations in onewayness (in the same street) that you really have to be there to do it justice. Complicated here by fact that the station is all on raised level and there are roads, footpaths, bridges etc all coming in at different heights and up and over each other.

Posted by tyll on 27 March 2008 in English.

Today my new and first GPS device arrived, a Garmin Legend HCx. I already recorded the first track and uploaded it to osm. It is a footpath that I wanted to add the first day I properly discoverd osm and saw, that it was missing. Now I am looking forward to map more.

Location: Hörn, Aachen-Mitte, Aachen, Aachen (district), North Rhine-Westphalia, 52074, Germany
Posted by boozeman on 27 March 2008 in English.

Hämeenlinnan tieverkkoon ei paljoa ole haja-asutusalueita lukuunottamatta lisättävää. Aina silloin tällöin jotain uuttakin kuitenkin kartalle eksyy.

Ajelinpa härskisti Vanajan voimalaitoksen porteista sisään kameralle irvistäen. Sieltä irtosi yksi nimetty tie lisää.

Pyöräteitäkin alkaa olemaan jo aika kivasti kartalla. mapnik-layeriin tuli myös ilokseni mm. leikkikentät.

Lipsahti myös Hattulan puolelle ja kohta on Katinalan kaupunginosa 54-tien itäpuolta lukuunottamatta täydellinen. Samalla reissulla Pälkäneeltä takaisin piirtyi myös tie 3073

Posted by daveemtb on 27 March 2008 in English.

Just back from a week in Cumbria, there's so much mapping needs doing up there! The road network, the cities, towns, villages, footpath/hiking trail network, NCN routes (71&72) all need a great deal of work.

I mapped the village of Thornhill pretty thoroughly as I had a bit of time available there. (See map link)

Otherwise i've been improving the road network and adding some details to towns where I visited.

I think that Keswick, Whitehaven, Carlisle and many others are strong candidates for mapping parties. Unfortunately I live too far away to organise one. (besides the time issues!)

Location: Beckermet, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom