public shaming how cool!

just bad that those empty nodes are the result from some experts deleting building outline ways while leaving the nodes there, so don't blame me if you have no clue.

Power details come from a variety of sources.
- Sand Hill Substation: Category "Educated Guess". Substations are always named after nearby places - preferably after the next populated place. Exceptions are when there multiple substations at one populated place. This is my experience from a lot of other substations where I have explicit data about the name available.
H o w e v e r, because Sand Hill is only an unincorporated community and not very far away from Ellisville, there might be a very low chance that it is actually named after something else & in hindsight I wouldn't have named it like that (even through I'm still relatively certain about it)
- Cooperative Energy Lines: An excellent reference is the EIA Form 860 data, government collected data about every US power plant. One entry is the operator of the interconnecting line (and their voltage).
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/eia860/
Just a few miles south of Sand Hill Substation is the Cooperative Energy's Moselle Power Plant - the Grid Operator is listed as "South MS Electic Association", which is Coop. Energy (renamed themselfes a few years ago). Now using a combination of other power plant data which also feed cooperative energy lines, the Coop.Energy system area map https://cooperativeenergy.com/energy-resources/transmission-system-map/, rarely some parcel ownership data, annual reports (according to which they operate 1800 miles of transmission line), construction/expansion project related documents/websites and more. Each source must be viewed somewhat critical, but all in all, it draws a good picture.
Still, I'm sometimes unsure and then I don't tag an operator (or add it later when I have more clarity).
And by the way, sometimes I'm closer than it seems ;)
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Most power lines were not exactly untouched for 15 years, but most are still basically unimproved, even after being touched multiple times. But well, a few were actually improved good enouth & shouldn't have been deleted whatsoever, I understand.
I don't think I offended anyone, certainly not everyone. But ok, I'll get back to editing now. Mass edits will be avoided, turns out deleting the lines directly before retracing would've now been faster anyway...

"Was it not disrespectful to do a mass deletion in the first place?"
***A mass deletion of low quality data from an 15 year old import. Not a mass deletion of data into which someone put a lot of effort.
I don't see how that's disrespectful to anyone.
"It's obvious to anyone that that's against community guidelines." - Deleting low quality imported data in order to improve is againest community guidelines now, noted, will not happen again.
...funny that you're here telling me stories about "community guidelines" when you massively broke those exact guidelines 2 months ago, thats quite hypocritical (changeset/133425452&133388647+hundreds more for reference)

"you're not even willing to consider a situation in which your well-intentioned work may have done more harm than good."
Of course I have! But other than the unconnected poles/towers, which was the original problem, I don't see any other harm. And I fixed those, because the deletion of these specific ways actually caused harm. If I wouldn't have considered that this CS harmed something, I wouldn't have spend my time finding&restoring those ways. By "sides", I mean simply people seeing this changeset as positive and people seeing it as negative.

I'd never expect that even deleting poor tiger data (in order to efficiently improve it) at a bit larger scale offends some people that much - but certainly important to know, I guess

"You cannot unilaterally decide..."
- That's not my decision, that's a straight fact. That's how convinced I am of myself here! Narcissist? No, we're talking about data from the Tiger import, which was what I mainly deleted here. I think anyone who has ever worked with Tiger(power lines) will be convinced that their edits are better than TIGER.
If you're seriously questioning if my work on power lines is worse than orginal TIGER power lines, then that's extremely disrespectful. (I don't think you do, but it somewhat sounds like that)

Preserving history is important - but which history? None of the lines have more than two tags - power=line and voltage=*. Power=line is obvious on the aerial image, voltage is somewhat easily interpretable from other connecting lines. ("somewhat" because some people failed or just guessed some wrong values)
Nothing that I have deleted here was some kind of "special" information, no on the ground survey, no special data digged from the depth of government docs, generally nothing which isn't directly obvious, nothing which is worth preserving.

The claim that this data is/was "valid" is highly questionable. Straight power lines have countless weird slight offsets - sometimes even hundreds of meters. Better no data than being that imprecise, IMO.
(no data for a few months only)

I see that asking local people about it (e.g. on slack MS channel) would've been better and I apologize for not doing so. (and I won't do such deletions of low quality data anymore).
However, I don't see what should be the point of a revert now. I spend a lot of my time working on a solution which could have satisfied the interests of both sides - Not one sentence lost over this, and I'm once again supposed to be the idiot conflating this trashy TIGER data with the lines I already retraced (which are actually quite a lot) - so that I can delete them in two months again when retracing.

Without going too much into detail, such a big deletion has a variety of benefits compared to deleting the ways directly before retracing. Learned this while mapping transmission in FL,GA,SC,NC&AL.
(If wished, I can also go into more detail)

I will not revert the entire edit here, but I searched using the Osmose QA tool for all unconnected poles/towers and restored the ways with more than 10 or so in a row.
changeset/135216271
The rest is going to be properly retraced, just like I did already in the states mentioned above.

Further, I don't see why this is "flat out unacceptable". My point is: Those trashy ways (an actual shame for OSM) were all over the state for 15 years, if they are gone but a handful of power towers will be orphaned for a few months, then that's not the end of the world.
But that's just my view.

Greetings

No idea what "pet nodes" are.
You're not in the position to complain about the revert. You should rather be thankful that I still bothered to fix/filter out things like highway=service/path, I could have just reverted the whole thing completely. The collateral damage would've been your problem.

What about you start using entire sentences to communicate, like a civilized human being?
I asked multiple times why'd you delete those nodes, and you always ignored or dodged the question. Because I don't want to waste my time like that, reverting was the only plausible option.

Because your'e obviously unable or unwilling to explain why you deleted those nodes, I reverted those deletions.

(hw=service->path etc. remains unchanged)

Ok.
And why did you remove so many random nodes from ways?

I still don't understand the "cleanup" you've done here

Sounds good, re-added them.

Note that the distribution voltage in the area is 14kV, so you can add voltage=14000 to other lines you eventually add.

I removed them because they were tagged as power=line, which is wrong. power=line is only for high voltage power transmission.

Theoretically, power=minor_line would be correct, but I think that's very questionable too, if only a few loose stretches are mapped - because it gives a false perception of the reality.
Ilustrative example of what I mean: Someone maps 10 individual parking spaces - but the entire lot consists out of 200.
If someone looks at the data, it looks like such power lines are only here and there, but in reality, they're next to nearly every road.
That's why I deleted them entirely.

If you want, I can restore them, but I don't think that's a good idea.

Greetings

Very old, I know, but:
You somehow left way/33006092/history without tags. Guess that wasen't intended like that.

No idea what you're talking about

I saw this already, and there, it looks like you just deleted some random nodes and thus lowered the quality

I assume you mean those ways avoiding multipolygons?
I don't think it's a good idea to just simply delete them entirely - I properly fixed it by converting them to multipolygons.
Didn't took long using JOSM's "connect overlapping areas" tool.

What exactly have you "cleaned up" here?

Why did you delete all those golf=rough ways?

Hello,
at changeset/133926121#map=18/34.14306/-83.60406, you used the "Apartment Complex" preset for apartment buildings.
"Apartment Complex" is intended for the entire area, individual buildings should be tagged with "Apartment Building". - Fixed it now.

Greetings

This is a siding, not a main track. And please use meaningful comments.