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93683842

Or in short : "ignorance is not a virtue" https://youtu.be/Pshix63B8AM
This topic is more than 2 years old, here's the 2nd time for it to be mentioned on the mailing list :
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036119.html

93683842

Here's the mentioned entry on the shop=car page : osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dcar&diff=1767933&oldid=1767491#Tags_used_in_combination

93683842

The number hasn't increased, but otherwise someone would have complained about removing info. The "service:vehicle" prefix has been introduced (undiscussed) by the ID admins and wasn't clarified unless several times mentioned (and noticed) on the mailing list. This circumstances were mentioned on the shop=car page, but removed by some individuals which seem to want to hold up clarification about that topic.
I assume that "wheels" means "rim", so that's something different to "tyres". I'd appreciate to get this topic further, so feel free to participate on the shop:car page discussion tab (I think "centrally" is better noticed by the majority than here)

86194050

Seems so, thanks. Updated it.

86194050

The de: is missing, just copied&pasted the wikipedia article's name. Couldn't find Dinkelacker-Schwaben Bräu on wikidata, so this is better than nothing ?

82945303

Is there any outcome of this "discussion" yet ? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036119.html

82945303

That would be really nice, but unfortunately it doesn't work like this at all :
"Things have to be discussed to ensure a tagging scheme is logical and usable on the long run".
There should be a general decision about namespace usage instead of this "small nit-picky discussion". Also see the article excerpt here : osm.wiki/User:Rtfm#Structural_problems

83071892

Na dann dokumentier das doch so, wie oben vorgeschlagen : shop=farm distinction.
D.h. wann welcher tag zu nehmen ist.

83071892

Da steht : "A shop that sells regional, seasonal, freshly harvested goods. It could be also used for a roadside produce stand. Similar inner-city farm shops also exist that specialize in selling products direct from (local/regional) farms." --> worauf willst Du hinaus ?
Wenn ich nach einem Direkterzeuger suche, dann doch eher nach shop=farm. Und mehrere tags für denselben Hofladen macht ja auch keinen Sinn. Wie gesagt ist die Mehrheit eher Direkterzeuger. Also bitte Deine Logik ggf. auf diesen Wiki-Seiten ergänzen. Das bringt nichts, hier "nein-doch-nein" zu spielen.

83071892

Ein Beispiel aus o.g. Liste wäre www.hofladen-strasser.de. Klingt mir ziemlich klar nach shop=farm ?

83071892

https://www.kleinbrennerei.de/Eine-Uebersicht,QUlEPTY1NDAzOTAmTUlEPTE0OTc.html

83071892

https://www.nabu.de/natur-und-landschaft/landnutzung/streuobst/service-und-adressen/14020.html
https://lvwo.landwirtschaft-bw.de/pb/,Lde/Startseite/Fachinformationen/Destillate+von+Kleinbrennereien

83071892

Genau das ist öfters der Fall

83071892

Man könnte beispielweise shop=farm distinction hinzufügen, es gibt z.B. auch viele Klein-Brennereien (meist als shop=farm). shop=alcohol ist für mich doch eher einer, der ein breiteres Angebot bietet.

83071892

Dann dokumentier es bitte auch gleich :
shop=alcohol
In diesem Sinne :
"You can use any tags you like, but please document them here on the OpenStreetMap wiki, even if self-explanatory. "
osm.wiki/Any_tags_you_like#Documenting_tags_not_in_Map_Features

82945303

"since no end-user application will ever evaluate" : check OsmAnd for example for the motorcycle namespace. OSM discussions take around a decade, there are many "Blockwart" type guys around the wiki to avoid any progress. Which other way to tag this (disabled vehicles) would you recommend ? And which "imaginative tags" are you generally talking about ? Please also check the shop=car page and their history

82705885

Du weichst nach wie vor der Frage aus

82705885

Du weichst nach wie vor der Frage aus

82705885

Das ist keine vernünftige Antwort, was soll der Blödsinn ?

82705885

Um auf die Frage zurück zu kommen :
Was soll der Vorteil an dieser doppelten taggerei sein ?