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179429906

Just read my text again, doesn't read as nice as I wanted. I just wanted to point to the wiki since all the charging related tagging has changed quite in the last 1-3 years. Nothing else. :-)

In general I'm very happy if people add all the chargers. I hate all the 1000 apps for every country to find chargers. OSM is perfect for that :-)

179463207

I just noticed iD says that man_made shouldn't be on a line, which then breaks the autocomplete to a charge_point...

179463207

Yes, as much as I know it's kind of new, 2-3 years maybe. The whole charging situation is slowly unwinding. It's also why I am often commenting like this. I want people to know and I want OSM to be perfect for electric cars. I hate the 1000 local apps for every country and charging provider.

But it's probably not too bad to have them the old way. In the past, most charging stations were small anyway, often 1-2 stations except for Tesla.
I think one could get charging stations that are in very close proximity using overpass turbo. I did some script in the past to find all the tesla stations like this, was pretty easy.

It's a lot worse if you look at the sockets. so much happened there and is still happening. meanwhile editors like iD are lagging completely due to discussions. But as usual in OSM, from nothing, to something, to better, to perfect :-)

175627397

Sounds like a lovely edge case 🥴
Thank you a lot for clarifying!

Shall I extend the description? Not sure if it is really needed. I just don't want people get into a mess accidentally while charging, may at night when people are more vulnerable

168723482

Warum nicht? Wird überall so genannt. Die URL war auch kürzer. Von Openstreetmap auf eine Map linken ist auch eher sinnlos...

179463207

hi. I think here you mapped the whole supercharger into many charging station but that is wrong. a charging station can be an area for the whole set of chargers too. each individual station is then a man_made=charge_point

see also
amenity=charging_station

you mind if I fix it?

179429906

(mapping chargers in general is a mess)

179429906

thank you for the supercharger, I updated it slightly. There are some good presets on iD too :-)

In case you want to learn how to map charging stations very accurately (and usefully for electric car drivers), here's the wiki
amenity=charging_station

Further in case you are local, you may convert the charging_station to an area and add each charging point too.
man_made=charge_point

no critic, just a hint :-)

179512738

Thank you for fixing my mistake and adding back the (less accurate) summaries. For me it's just very important to get to charging infrastructure mapped right and also more or less easy readable. For electric car drivers it often matters a lot how big and fast a charging station is. And there are a 1000 proprietary apps having localized data, but it sucks as tourist. So really wish for osm to be the leader here :-)

179512738

The wiki article contradicts that. Same as a map consumer, I really think it‘s useful and practical to have the summary of chargers on a node/area. I suggest do discus this there or on the community website ( 1 of 1000 charger discussions :-) )

My analogy would be parking spaces, which belong to a parking. We do not expect the map consumers to count spaces inside the parking, instead we use the capacity. I consider the sockets as capacity.

amenity=charging_station

179497134

Oh shit, I thought the use the Tesla ID?!? 🗿

I will verify and cleanup.

179325263

(soll heissen, mir sollen alles recht ein, hauptsache konstistent durchgezogen)

179325263

Bei OSM ist es immer schwierig herauszufinden wer wo wie die Daten braucht :-)

Generell ist das Chargerthema ein leidiges. Tesla war früh und zuerst, d.h. socket:tesla_supercharger_css aber heutzutage ist es halt generisch. aber je nach Kontinent ist es dann wieder etwas anderes. Aber so sind und waren halt viele Supercharger getaggt.

dann kommt noch socket:, die dinger sind alle kabel, keine Sockets. sockets gibt es wenn überhaupt bei typ2, aber nicht beim combo.

Ergänzt wird das durch die fehlenden Felder in iD. Die Stecken da auch in zig diskussionen fest...

179325263

Verständlich. Problem ist etwas, dass die Equivalent sind die Ankündigung zur Umstellung etwas kurzfristig war. D.h. kann man vorerst beides lassen. Zumindest so gelesen.

177113688

Wusste nicht dass das irgend ein Tesla supercharger kann😳

152551387

node/11972575981/history

is that really a destination charger?