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You're welcome. Anyways, feel free to join OSM World Discord (https://discord.gg/openstreetmap), or OSM US Slack (https://slack.openstreetmap.us/) where I have #forest-mapping channel set up. And as I can see, you're also from Europe just like me, since it's 22:57 (10:57 PM) when I write this

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NAIP = National Agriculture Imagery Program :) and it's in iD editor, so you can use it by default

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NAIP has imageries taken from 2021/2022, depending on state. (there is a map on USDA site: https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=0ecb05ec9e0540d3a201c4ef9d2aee88)

For Bing, the imagery is from 2019ish, so it's a bit older. (seeing it from metadata, which you can check in JOSM by right clicking on the editing area -> show tile info) - not talking about Esri World Imagery Clarity (Beta), which has the imagery taken from 2010-2011. Although, it can be used as a reference, to check what changed.

Esri World Imagery: by checking on Arcgis mapviewer(https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html, then choosing World Imagery from Esri), the imagery's dates are varying, but in Dallas County I can see 2021-2022 year.

I know a little bit off, but this relates to the multiple imagery usage from me

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Bing vs NAIP: NAIP is newer than Bing, that's why I use that, sometimes there are inaccuracies because of the managed wood, however I try to make a mix n' match, so I check the state from Bing imagery and from NAIP as well, and try to see what fits the best. I also notice inaccuracies sometimes, because when I save the drawn area with Fastdraw, sometimes simplifies the nodes too much that it sacrifices the accuracy for that. :)

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XDDD people won't notice what you wrote in the changeset but still funny

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Hi threeof4,

Thanks for the comment, when I have time i'll check it based on what you're mapping. I noticed that there are a lot of managed forests but I hate using landuse=forest and natural=wood together, because it appears the same on any OSM map layer. (Let it be mapbox or carto or anything). In Europe everything is marked with landuse=forest because that is the standard, since all forest can be cut down there even if most of it is natural. (Some are managed though)
In Alabama there's a lot of natural=wood tagging, and it has similar managed and unmanaged tagging. (So maybe you should catch up with other mappers regarding the matter)
The reason is similar, most of us in the OSM US community has settled down that natural=wood on everything, because the landuse=forest is just ambiguous.

In Appalachia (West Virginia + Maryland + PA and other states) I use natural=wood only since the amount of managed woods is not much, except those which are owned by USFS (national forests) or the State (state forests), but based on some debate we agreed on keeping natural=wood. I invested a lot of time in this and to be honest the area I edited looks a lot better than before.

(I crosspost this to OSMUS Slack so maybe other mappers from the US have their opinion)

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I will redraw the bad quality ones sooner or later just I did not want to deal with the alignment of them :)

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OHH! Wrong changeset comment :) This is Dallas County, Arkansas, just i automatically chose I was mapping forest landcover

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*only

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Ohhh! Sorry for not answering back, I onls used imagery and not local knowledge and i'm not local to the area (I'm a couch mapper from Hungary)

Probably you should ask MapSpot about that, because he knows the area :)

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+ Bing aerial imagery at a point (as a source, i forgot to add)

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+ Bing aerial imagery as source

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these changeset comments make me laugh :D it's enough if you only say you mapped woods and that's it

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changeset/137993032 So this is what I mean, although this is a lot smaller than that big forest thing, but at least this aligns a lot better to the landuses

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Also, for mapping landcover I'm using fastdraw plugin in JOSM, because it's an efficient tool to draw these. If you've got any questions feel free to reach me out either in private messages or on OSMUS Slack (https://slack.openstreetmap.us/) or Discord, I don't know which one do you prefer

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Hey! I like that you use JOSM to add wood landcover, however, there is a golden rule in mapping landcover that it should not overlap residential areas.

Where you can see a road wraps the forest or farmlands, etc, don't map it over that. For example of these you should take a look at West Virginia, which I map since 2020.
(such as: relation/13797537 relation/13824325 and way/1183627996)

Thanks a lot for your help.

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and also aligned the coastline, hence the size of the changeset, because I splitted it

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I also splitted up the huge multipolygon into many smaller ones and mix-matched the existing forest landcover polygons and traced areas too

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good example is relation/15969160, it doesn't render now on Carto layer

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Hello, when mapping please check which multipolygon you broke before upload the changeset. I really suggest using JOSM (https://josm.openstreetmap.de/) for this purpose.
I have to fix numerous multipolygons because they're broken