From my experience, not all floors are occupied, and there are often more floors than clinics (presumably offices?). I also doubt that there would be many "minor" clinics in such a rural remote location. As I said elsewhere, if you are not sure, maybe don't do anything and wait for someone to do a survey?

Imo it's still the original speed limit until you are adjacent to a new speed limit sign. I don't see how emerging lane / yellow strips (actually yellow strips can occur without a ramp so it is even less relevant) make it undefined. It's certainly "before".

Paint is not physical, according to both common sense and the wiki osm.wiki/Dual_carriageway

"Roads are not to be mapped as dual carriageways if the two directions are only separated by paint. This includes single or multiple painted centre lines, hatched areas, channelized turn lanes, two-way turn lanes"

Is there physical separation along the entire way? Aerial imagery seems to show the middle section is not separated, although it is not very clear.

Does the physical separation go that far north?

I doubt this. It's a `=transition`, meaning it's actually a lane sharing a cross-section with the rest of the highway. The 50 km/h sign would usually start later.

This seems wrong. You can see a 50 km/h road marking starting after the section you edited.

This seems wrong. You can see a 50 km/h road marking.

Did you mean to move node/6239072574 , or is it a dragged node?

Would no name be fine? This can be moved to `description`, only adding name after it's finalised (although by then the constrution will probably be finished).

How so?

Tbh feels like a descriptive name; are you sure?

> I have heard enough rumors about iD messing up relations to not do it.

Imo routing a bus relation along a non-existent road (or worse, a way that is not even a road) is not any better than breaking it. I would consider what you did here to also be "messing up relations", but maybe it's just me.

> I usually make was:highway when I find out there are bus routes that use the old paths.

Now you are making me concerned about any other non-existent `was:highway` you added for this purpose...

> With several years of OSM experience myself, it's time I should advance myself and investigate what/how JOSM really is.

I have much less OSM experience than you do, and I have found using JOSM to editing bus relations surprisingly straightforward, albeit rather boring and time-consuming. Editing bus relations also do not require many operations, so the learning curve is flatter than general editing. I welcome you to try using JOSM more; I see that you have already used JOSM in changeset/177142376 which is a good start.

I don't think you should use `was:highway=` this way. It is for describing changes irl, not osm mapping. Simply delete it, or use `centreline=virtual`. Also, supposedly you should have migrated the bus route relation, but I don't blame you as you are using iD.

Please note that `=motorway` is currently used for expressways, tunnel areas, and roads not accessible without them.

changeset/177280792

Please don't upload personal data to a public database.

Please don't upload personal data to a public database.

Does it really have physical separation though?

The standards can be discussed in detail later indeed, but for now the status quo is to give `=motorway` to roads not accessible without expressways. Imo if you disagree you should have raised it in a different place, (or did you do that already and I missed it?), and not enforce directly without consensus.

Continuing from note/4908929

> Re MOS road, I would think there is nothing to continue since both the "main" road and the "slip" road have their motorway status end right at the junction linking them together.

The "continuity rule" is "road not accessible without an expressway are also `=motorway`". Obviously this section of MOS Road is not accessible without either Tate's Cairn Highway (expressway) or the expressway section of MOS Road, so it should also be `=motorway`. Main and slip road having their motorway status ending together is not relevant.

I also vaguely remember reading somewhere that bus-only roads should not be taken into account when evaluating highway classifications, which could justify extending `=motorway` to the Hang Tai Road entrance. But I can't find where now.