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180106498

The erroneous armchair mapping was also in changeset/177558392.

179953285

No problem, you’ve got up to speed fast!

I’ve just submitted a few more tweaks to what you’ve done today, but nothing major.

One thing to note is that driveways for houses should be tagged as access=private as they’re not part of the public road network.

Aside from that I mostly tidied up a few bits of geometry and added roof tags (which most people don’t bother with; don’t feel you have to; they’re useful for 3D rendering of the map, or for data collection about housing types).

Thanks for fixing the Caton FC details :)

179952926

Heya, areas like way/1489465296 look like meadow, rather than cropland, so should probably be tagged as landuse=meadow meadow=pasture (you can see animals grazing on this area in aerial imagery).

See osm.wiki/User:Gurglypipe/landuse for an overview of the consensus several local mappers have on how to tag different types of farmland in the north west. :)

179953285

Hi, welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for your additions to Caton. It’s nice to see some of the housing gaps here being filled in.

You’ll have noticed I made some changes after your first edit — thanks for picking up on that and learning from it. Happy to answer any questions if you have any.

One question from me — why did you change the Facebook page of Caton FC (way/1322379870) from https://www.facebook.com/profile.php/?id=61556191269660 to sheffieldjourno@gmail.com? As far as I can see, the Facebook page is still active.

Cheers

179870738

Indeed, the OSM editor does suggest changing the tags — but it’s only a suggestion. If the tag change could always be applied with certainty then it would have been applied automatically without you having to approve it. Please do check such suggestions in future and only apply them if you’re sure they’re correct (they typically are correct though). It’s fine to leave them if you’re unsure.

I’ve removed the public_transport=platform tags in changeset/179962736

Thanks for the rest of your updates here! :)

179870738

Hiya, thanks for adding some detail to Cinderbarrow!

Are you sure that things like way/549563143 should be tagged as public_transport=platform? They are a railway platform (railway=platform), but Cinderbarrow isn’t really *public* transport, so I’m not sure that tagging is appropriate? :)

179877434

Nice to see some more of the meadows being mapped, nice work :)

179822885

In fact, the roads near Coanwood were previously changed to highway=tertiary (changeset/100556040) and then those changes were reverted as invalid (changeset/100556298).

179822885

Hi, I’d really like to know what basis you’re changing these road classifications on, as it doesn’t seem to align with the consensus on the wiki.

osm.wiki/Roads_in_the_United_Kingdom
highway=unclassified
highway=tertiary

Spot-checking some of the changes here:
- way/108118886 is a back road between Nenthall and Nenthead and has passing places. The main road (A689) connects the two places more directly.
- way/154856542 is more likely a residential street (it has houses and a school)
- The road from Slaggyford through Ayle goes over a single track bridge and is signed ‘Light traffic only’

None of those fit in with the guidance on the wiki.

What problem are you trying to solve, and what guidelines are you using for choosing road classification? If you’re trying to solve a specific problem then please give details and perhaps there’s some alternative tagging which needs adding to fix it, which fits with the general tagging consensus.

As it stands, these changes seem incorrect to me, and if you continue to not reply then I’ll need to escalate this. Problem solving comes from discussing problems :)

179405131

Please can you reply before making further changes to road classification across the country.

179405131

Hiya, I’d like to ask again what basis you’re making these changes on, and what sources you’re using. Have you been along these roads? A lot of them have width restrictions, and I don’t think can realistically be described as tertiary roads. The Hause in particular is a dead end which is barely wide enough for one car, with few passing places.

I’m sure there are places in the Lakes where the road classifications in OSM aren’t right, but you are a relatively new user, and you seem to be changing a lot of them all at once. Have you read the guidance on the wiki about road classification, and do you have good local knowledge of these roads?

highway=tertiary
highway=unclassified
osm.wiki/Roads_in_the_United_Kingdom

In particular note the guidance on the last page: “[highway=tertiary is] generally used only on roads wide enough to allow two cars to pass safely where adequate road markings are in place”

Interested to hear your thoughts :)