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106663476

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I tried to craft together overpass query to find deleted elements, but it didn't work reliably as it didn't find control sample way/61732730 (https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/way/61732730). Similar situation is also at #map=19/59.40476/27.28695 where's 3 overlapping parks and apartment building overlapping a road.
While there are many Pokemon Go related issues in the world of OSM, their in-game maps haven't been updated for years and I would assume most players don't see point in updating OSM as their changes won't show up in game. Also this user's actions involve more than just parks, for example apartment buildings and footpaths such as "пешеходная дорожка в лесу 2" (way/467983228) north of town. Pay attention to access=no tags on these paths.
As for the real Rahvapark, looks like it haven't been added before. Closest candidate would be way/926197944. Btw, i think only reason Rahvapargi tiik has preserved it's name was because of it's wikidata tag, as iD doesn't let users to easily rename objects with wikidata connection.
Please have a look at avenue aside Kohtla-Järve park (https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/way/48237896). I find it unlikely, that main street of town is two parallel pedestrian streets with sidewalks. Furthermore, there's Maxima grocery store's parking lot on that street with entrance from park's side and on aerial imagery from 30th of May (https://fotoladu.maaamet.ee/?basemap=kiirortofoto&zlevel=15,27.28616,59.40216) cars are still allowed on the street. I tried to fix that road few days after it was edited and my change was virtually reverted within day.

I have been occasionally observer their actions and sometimes written down notes when something is notably odd. "Park for recreation number 4" (way/938285913) for example is part of cluster of 4 intersecting parks, but that particular park has address "пешеходная дорожка 66" named after nearby footway. Officially, all that forest should be called one big Metsapargi.
Just like Keskallee, there are more legit-named streets which have been converted to footways: way/61732621, way/60542348, way/60542353, way/234531443.

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ENG:
Comments of this changeset and changeset/106293325 suggest adding new street, but both changesets add just two overlapping parks: парк тихий (way/954028662) and парк отдыха (way/954028810) (quiet park
and recreation park respectively).
While I doubt about validity of two overlapping parks and their names, I think it's safe to conclude that these parks are not streets.
Please use comments that reflect reality.

EST:
Käesoleva ning järgneva muudatuskogumi kommentaarid väidavad, nagu oleks muudatuste raames lisatud kaardile uued tänavad, samas kui tegelikkuses lisasite kaks teineteisega kattuvat parki: парк тихий (way/954028662) and парк отдыха (way/954028810), mille nimed tähendavad tõlkes vastavalt vaikne park ja puhkepark.
Kuigi ma kahtlen nende kahe pargi nimedes ning kattuvuses, olen kindel, et käesoleval juhul on need ikkagi pargid, mitte tänavad.
Palun kasutage selliseid kommentaare, mis kirjeldavad tegelikkust.

RUS (g-translate):
Комментарии к этому пакету правоки и changeset/106293325 предлагают добавление новую улицу, но оба пакети изменений добавляют только два перекрывающихся парка: "Парк тихий" (way/954028662) и "Парк отдыха" (way/954028810).
Хотя я сомневаюсь в достоверности двух перекрывающихся парков и их названий, я думаю, что можно с уверенностью заключить, что эти парки, не улицы.
Пожалуйста, используйте комментарии, которые отражают реальность

PS: Bing is the worst imagery in Estonia. Please use Esri or Maa-amet layers.
Bing худший аэрофотоснимки в эстонии. Используйте аэрофотоснимки от Esri или Maa-amet.

Tutorials/guides/Учебники:
osm.wiki/RU:Changeset
osm.wiki/RU:Хороший_стиль
osm.wiki/Armchair_mapping
osm.wiki/Verifiability

106663476

Hello, Thanks for stepping by.
You seem to be experienced russian-speaking OSM mapper. Parks you deleted were added by relatively new russian-speaking user tetrab0rat, who has added many suspiciously named and overlapping parks all over the town; one park per changeset. Sadly I haven't contacted them directly because i don't speak russian.
Do you mind leaving some constructive criticism to one of tetrab0rat's recent changesets?

PS. Please consider using more informative changeset comments in the future, such as "deleted bunch of parks".

106720590

Hello. Please refrain from using Bing imagery in Estonia as it's possibly the worst imagery available here. Please use either Esri or Maa-amet imagery.
In your use case it might be good idea to familiarize yourself with Maa-amet's pre-release imagery: https://fotoladu.maaamet.ee/?basemap=kiirortofoto&zlevel=14,24.70670,59.45319&overlay=avaleht

You can select background imagery with shortcut key "B".

PS. It might be good idea to use more informative chageset comments rather than merely single letter h.

104999421

@josh_joplin_lp Turned out tests failed because specific command used to run tests was changed on Wednesday. I couldn't try out Vietnam on my computer, because after 2 hours it had filled entire my hard drive, but it worked fine with Cambodia (one of smallest map files for Asia).
I have updated the scripts and despite all the errors DB test gives, most of them were about integration tests covering signing in with third party accounts. There were also some errors about user diary entries and moderation functionalities, but they seemed to work.
I was able to create some changes in Josm and upload them to server.

PS. If you wish to add iD to your website as well, you need to follow some easy steps at https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/blob/master/CONFIGURE.md#oauth-consumer-keys .

104999421

@josh_joplin_lp. Sorry for late reply. Looked up on my VM, that uses just Estonia. Database size was 9GB, while pbf file was 83MB. I think you will need about 27-28GB for database, but then you'll also need additional space for all possible files that may be created during your process. For example I noticed my OSM server had 3 GB of logs.
Considering Ubuntu OS itself needs ~15 GB, I'd suggest to have around 50GB virtual disk for VM. Osmosis runtime for me was around 30-40 min. Since your file 3 times bigger, it should take 1.5-2 hours (highly variable depending on your hardware).
Optionally, take a look at your host PC's power settings and make sure that it's power mode is set to high performance or automatic. Mine went had around 40% faster after changing power mode.

104999421

@josh_joplin_lp Use install_english.sh and on line 7 and 8 change pbf_filename to what you like, pbf_download_url to suitable region's download url. I think you may want "https://download.geofabrik.de/asia/vietnam-latest.osm.pbf".
On lines 124, 132 and 133 you can define your dev account user's username and password. Ln 126, 127 can be changed to whatever you want, but you don't have to.

After installing, use run.sh to start api server.

104999421

Hi,
Interesting question. I know that editors usually assign negative numbers as temporary IDs for elements, but that's also where my knowledge on the subject end.
It's not allowed to use main database for development purposes, but you should either use dev server (https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org) or set up one yourself.
I personally had similar problem few months ago and i created Bash script to set up copy of OSM-API on local Ubuntu 20.04 VM. https://github.com/kallejre/geo/tree/main/building%20geometry%20importer/API%20server%20setup I hope it helps.
You can configure JOSM to use different OSM server other than default main API.

104986112

If you prefer English, let me know.

Tere.
Oled hiljuti lisanud kaardile mõned muudatuskogumid (104770258, 104957427, 104986112 ja 104986211).
1) Esiteks tahaksin korrata üle juhanjuku kommentaari aastast 2017 (changeset/54294579), et Eesti oludes on kõige mõistlikum kasutada Maa-ameti või Esri kaardikihti. (Kaardikihti vahetatakse kaardiredaktori parempoolse menüü keskmisest (ülevalt ja alt 5.) nupust.)
2) Nimi on väli, kuhu kirjutatakse selle konkreetse objekti (ametlik) nimi. Selleks, et kirjeldada teistele kasutajatele, mida sa kaardile lisasid, kasutatakse muid välju. Praegusel juhul lisasid sa Raua 55 ja Narva mnt 38 vahelisele parkimisplatsile pargi, mille nimi on Grass. Sama lugu on ka kõigi mänguväljakutega - Raua 32 parklas peaks sinu andmetel olema mänguväljak nimega Playground? Kui nime ei ole, siis jäta see lihtsalt kirjutamata.
2.1) Konkreetselt muruplatside jaoks on olemas silt `landuse=grass` ning veel paar alternatiivi.
3) OSMis laetakse muudatused kaardile sellise asjaga, mille nimi on muudatuskogum, mis on idee poolest samas piirkonnas tehtud muudatuste *kogum*. Ideaalis võiksid kõik sinu Kadriorus tehtud muudatused kuuluda ühte kogumisse, aga nad on tehtud eri päevadel. Kindlasti oleks võinud käesolev muudatuskogum sisaldada ka pitsakioski lisamist, sest nende lisamise vahe oli ainult 3 minutit. Kiosk ise on igati korrektne ning selle sisu osas kaebused puuduvad.

104999421

Hello,
1) Is there any specific reason, why relation/12734077 needs to be mapped as 4 separate ways joined into relation, not as a single way?
2) Do you have any source to support your claims about elevation of node/8748366624 being -1.8662781715393066 meters?
3) Are you aware, that Josm can save your progress when you exit it, so you don't have to upload changes that are "not mature yet"?
4) You seem to be importing street side parking areas (in middle of a primary road?). Instead of four ways and a relation, please consider connecting four nodes with single enclosed way tagged as "amenity=parking; parking=lane"

104472293

Teretulemast OSMi kasutajaks. Nägin, et lisasid kaardile ühe uue maja, mida vanadel ortofotodel ei ole ning seetõttu sai kaardile üpris kummaline kujund.
Tulevikus soovitan kaardi muutmisel kasutada edaspidi Esri või Maa-ameti kaardikihte, sest nad on Eestis kõige parema kvaliteediga. (Kihti saab muuta parempoolses menüüs, ülevalt 4. nupp).
Kui oled äkki huvitatud uuest ortofotost, kus uus maja on juba olemas, vaata Maa-ameti lehele: https://fotoladu.maaamet.ee/?basemap=kiirortofoto&zlevel=15,24.70637,59.45353&fotoarhiiv&overlay=tyhi&sideoff

English summary: Please consider using Esri or Maa-amet imagery, when mapping in Estonia, as they have best quality here. If you are interested, link above points to newest available imagery.

87644177

Tere / Hello,

Since you seem to be local mapper, do you mind revisiting this changeset area regarding those fixme-tags on trees? After consulting with other mappers, I think correct tag should be man_made=planter instead of natural=tree.
man_made=planter

Also, i don't know how accurate or up to date imagery is, but best imagery choice in this scenario (iD and recent changes) is Estonia Cadastre layer. However, new survey might be needed, because aerial images were taken during lockdown.

102258763

Thank you for fixing it so quickly!

102235311

Thanks for solving the note (2605349) so quickly.

100420526

Hi. Thanks for changing 913490310. I forgot meadow tag existed. Please have also look at way/913490337 from follow-up changeset. I think i misused grassland there, but some other landuse tag is more suitable there as livestock is clearly visible on imagery. I think it's called pasture?
Regarding pond/basin im not sure i know how to differentiate between these two. I always thought pond was more specific than basin, but turns out it was opposite. Sorry.

98468287

Parkla on juba alana märgistatud, ning tulemus on ka kaardil nähtav. Vajuta klaviatuuril Ctrl+F5 klahvi. See sunnib brauseri vahemälu uuendama. Kui nii ka ei aita, siis vali kaardivaateakna parempoolses menüüs ülevalt 6. nupp (ristkülik, millest tuleb nool välja, nupu nimi on "Jaga" või "Share") ning edasi laadi alla. See sunnib OSM veebilehte joonistama spetsiaalselt sulle kõige uuemat kaardivaadet.

98468287

Kui paremini ei oska, siis las ta jääb nii nagu praegu on. Saaremaa uued aerofotod peaksid saabuma sügisel ning siis saab paremini teha.
Aga Google kasutamine on OSMi kaardistamisel juuridilistel põhjustel väga rangelt keelatud sama käib ka Eesti kontekstis Regio kohta. Teisalt kasutavad mõlemad allikana vabalt kättesaadavaid pildimaterjale, vastavalt Maxarit ja Maa-ametit.

98468287

Tänan kiire vastuse eest. On teil võib-olla hetkel 15-30 min aega, et ise asendid ja kujud paika panna? Kohaliku elaniku teadmised on ikka paremad kui vanalt ortofotolt vaadates.
iD-s (veebipõhine kaardiredaktor) saab kaardi tausta muuta klaviatuurilt B-klahviga (vali menüüst ülevalt teine Esri mitte-beeta). Ma tegin tõenäoliselt vale kujuga ja liiga suure ala. Nurkadest lohistades saab ala kuju muuta; delete-klahv kustutab valitud sõlme. Selleks, et olemasolev ala kollasest elamualast lahti siduda, saab kasutada klaviatuuri otseteed D.
Kui olete uued tühjad alad valmis joonistanud, siis Shift-klahviga saate valida ala ja vastava sõlme (mõlemad peaksid hakkama punaselt vilkuma) ning C-klahviga andmed sõlmelt alale ümber kanda.

98468287

Üks asi veel. Te olite märkinud puukooli telefoninumbriks +37353804470.Ma oletan, et mõtlesite ikka kodulehel olnud Eesti mobiilinumbrit +372 5380 4470, mitte Moldova telefoninumbrit?

98468287

Tere,
Esiteks, teretulemast OSMi kaardistajaks. Näen, et olete märkinud, et soovite muudatuste ülevaatamist. Ma ei oska kommenteerida kui õige või vale oli info, mis te pojengifestivali kohta sisestasite, aga peale vaadates paistab enamik korrektsena.
Siiski, paar üsna levinud viga torkavad silma:
1) Te kasutasite vaikimisi aerofotokihti, ehk Bingi. Mujal maailmas on Bing igati ajakohane ja hea kvaliteediga pildikiht, aga Euroopas annavad kohalikud kihid parema tulemuse. Eesti kontekstis on parimad valikud Maa-amet, Esri ja Maxari kiht.
2) Ma ei tea, kas tahtlikult või kogemata muutsite Tallinnas Magasini tänaval olevat maja (way/26895420). Üldiselt on mõistlik hoida erinevate piirkondade muudatused eraldi muudatuskogumites.
3) Aadressid. 99% Eesti aadressitest pärineb Maa-ameti andmekogust, mille info jõuab OSMi kaardile poolautomaatselt kord paari kuu tagant. See tähendab, et pikkade ajalooliste vaidluste tulemusena on pandud paika kust aadressiandmed tulevad ja kuidas neid esitatakse (osm.wiki/Et:Key:addr). Kahjuks kasutab iD sellist kasutajaliidest, mis maakohtades võib kasutajaid eksitada. Näiteks teie muudatuse tulemusel tekkis puukool, mis asub Saaremaa linnas Nõmme ja Pärni tänavate ristmikul.
Pole vaja muretseda, aadressi oskan ma korda teha. Vihje tulevikuks: kõige lihtsam on korrektne aadress saada nii kopeerid õige vormistuse naabermajalt.
Tallinnlasena ei oska ma kaugelt välja mõelda, miks te tegite Saaremaa Puukoolist kolma varianti: punktina, alana ja ingliskeelse punktina. Samuti tekitab küsimusi autoparkla. Kas tegemist on alles hiljuti valminud parklaga, sest loogiliselt võttes ei mahuks aerofotol olevate puude vahele 50 parkimiskohta?