Do you want to edit the AECoC page to point out that discussions shouldn’t take place solely on “proprietary communication channels”?

I think the AECoC is relatively clear that you should at least always post to a mailing list?:

If you plan to make any automated edit, you should discuss and document your plans beforehand. Documentation should be placed on the wiki and the proposal should then be discussed on a suitable mailing lists: [list of mailing list options]

As for HSTS, I wasn’t familiar with that, but did a little reading. I’m not sure how you think that could be incorporated into what I’m doing. Can you explain?

HSTS is where a website says “Always contact this website over HTTPS”. If an OSM object’s website tag URL returns that, then you can be much more confidence that you should change the OSM object, the RFC says that you should always use HTTPS from now on.

Thanks for some of the details. Can you go into more detail. Can you include the script you’re using? What tags are you changing? How are you comparing the URLs? What are you doing to protocol-less domains (e.g. website=www.example.com)? Why not try it on the whole world, not just USA?

Where are you seeing these terms? A lot of OSM should be able to “translate” from one to the other. Do you have a screenshot?

Why is the board sitting on this report for a month on such an important issue? Warum sitzt das Board bei einer so wichtigen Angelegenheit einen Monat lang auf diesem Bericht?

The Board got the report in 26 December, a public holiday in many places. I’m willing to give them 2 weeks of not working for the christmas break. Der Vorstand hat die Angelegenheit am 26. Dez gekreight, ein wichtig Urlaub. Ich glaube, dass zwei woche frei, ohne (freiwillige!) Arbeit ist gerecht.

Thanks @Gwantwa. That link is interesting, but it isn’t really what I mean. It talks, in vague terms, about HOT + FB’s work in Indonesia. The OSM community has adopted some Organised Editing Guidelines for groups to follow. I don’t see this on the list of activities. Those rules are there for everyone’s benefit and to make OpenStreetMap better and to help your group out, which I’m sure is everyone’s goals. Can you update the wiki please?

Sounds like you’ve done quite a lot of good things with OSM! It’s always get to see people doing on the ground surveys, and helping people. Can you tell us more about this Facebook Roads Import? Where can we read more? Where’s the wiki page about this?

Welcome to OpenStreetMap! 👋

Allow only verified active mappers to vote and run for the board

How should that be defined? It would be very easy to game and fix with a bot.

Oh nice! I really like that slogan. “We made you a map. It’s called OpenStreetMap.” 👍

osmium is another tool that can be easier to filter files with. 😉

When you get the map(s), please take a photo and share it with us! 🙂

We actually open sourced an earlier version of our iD awhile ago if you would like to take a look. Our current version will be released shortly.

Oh my mistake, I missed that. That seems to be mostly written by Mapbox employees, I didn’t know Facebook & MB were so close!

Our current version will be released shortly.

😉

I had a nice time with the OSM director through interactions with him

I’m not really sure what happened, or who you met, but there isn’t any “OSM Director”….

Its not like where I live in America isn’t being deeply effective by the BS of the Russian government

Ummm… I really think there is a big. big difference between the actions of the Russian government in the USA and Ukraine. Quantatively, and qualitiatively. “deeply” it is not. This sort of comparison is unhelpful to the discussion.

I think, given Ukrainain/Russian history and politics, the Ukrainians have a right to be upset and angry. However OSM has a long standing rule, of “country borders should match de facto physical control”. You’re unhappy with the outcome of that rule, when applied to Crimea. What rule do you think we should use instead?

In the mean time, you can set up your own tileserver displaying borders as you want. They do that in India. That might solve your problem?

Please stop posting the same thing again and again.

I think, given Ukrainain/Russian history and politics, the Ukrainians have a right to be upset and angry. Calling them narcists or cult-members is pointless, knock that off. It is politics, but everything is politics. It’s impossible to be politically neutral.

However OSM has a long standing rule, of “country borders should match de facto physical control”. You’re unhappy with the outcome of that rule, when applied to Crimea. What rule do you think we should use instead?

In the mean time, you can set up your own tileserver displaying borders as you want. They do that in India. That might solve your problem?

Please consult this wiki page: Template:OSM-anarchist, which is older than the boundaries page: “I don’t give a flying monkey’s for tag voting, automatic changebots, endless discussions, categories, or any of that crap, but prefer to get on and actually do stuff.”. The existance of something written on the wiki isn’t definitive, and isn’t the slam dunk case you seem to think. (But here we go, since 2011, the Good Practice wiki page has said: “Don’t map your local legislation, if they are not bound to objects in reality”

OSM has (I presume) been growing for years, with more and more mappers and editors. I wonder why so many mailing lists show large declines in messages in recent years.

Artiom Komolov, do you not see the irony in saying Ireland is in the UK while complaining about Crimea being shown as part of Russia?

“legally binding” isn’t very useful here. The OSM project is free to use any criteria for country borders, and is entirely free to outsource that decision making to the UN and use “UN resolution”.

But that’s not how things have worked in OSM for 10+ years, and there are problems with using “UN resolution” as a criteria, and people advocating for it need to address the issues with it. But I haven’t seen anyone willing to engage in that.