Yeah, OSM is great for getting you to explore every little side street and stuff.

Welcome to OSM! It’s a shame the imagery you were looking at was well old. Maybe if you tell us where you’re looking at, there might be newer imagery?

I don’t think “urgent emergency” is as big a loophole as might be expected. I presume this refers to cases like the 2010 Haitian earthquake, which you cannot predict in advance. Some of the 2017 hurricanes only existed about a few days before HOT started working on it. But lots of HOT work (e.g. Global Mapathon to help end female genital mutilation), wouldn’t fall under that “urgent” case. You can’t fake a earthquake!

You say “The dataset you are ready to import to OSM cannot be older than two years”, and I’m pretty sure that’s not true. I’ve imported a dataset that started life decades ago, and is a few years old now. “Data quality” is important, and often associated with age, but one still have to look at the data, even if it’s “new”.

A tricky thing to describe is the emailing to the imports@ list. It’s not controlled by an import committee who will decide and vote and then tell you their result, so it’s hard to describe what “approval” means in this case. And if one person emails back “Looks good 👍” a new user might think that’s “approval”. “Seek consensus on the import@ mailing list” is more accurate, but vague if you’re not used to that form of decision making.

Cool. There was a long discussion on the talk@ list in August (starting here) about importing OLC data into OSM (a bad idea) compared software support (like your site). There is a discussion about adding the search to the OSM.org search bar, like your site, but I don’t think it’s been merged in yet…

Welcome to OSM! Have fun. 🙂

Welcome to OSM! Have fun. 🙂

Would the tracktype tag be useful here? It’s a little less subjective than smoothness.

Previously I said:

a place where it’s illegal to be out + LGBTQ … SoTM Asia 2018 had/have similar issues.

It would be remiss of me not to point out that the Indian courts have just overturned that law, and so this complaint no longer applies to upcoming SotM Asia 2018. 😁

Great to see you playing around with things. But be careful of importing these buildings, unless you follow the Import Guidelines….

If you make loads and loads of API calls and put the sever under undue load, then your app would be banned and people who are maintaining the servers for free in their spare time would be mad at you.

There is a /full API end point for nodes/ways/relations which, I think, will return all the members as well. I think you can also get many objects at once in one API call. That might help. (I haven’t done a lot with the API, so I’m not sure).

Another approach is to download the OSM data and just use that rather than querying the API for every object. You can download a regional extract from Geofabrik, or the use osmium to cut out a part of the planet file (or any other extract). You need to figure out how to store the file. But it’s the same XML format. It would be much faster than an API call for every element. When people do a lot of work on OSM objects this is probably more common than lots of API calls

I’m not really sure what you’re doing exactly. But from what you’ve described I can’t see anything obviously wrong or slow. So I don’t think there’s a faster way. I’m surprised you say it’s slow, how are you storing/processing/fetching the OSM data? Maybe it could be speeded up there?

@alexkemp: Your examples of “natural” & fair selection criteria is… grammar schools and UK universities in the 1960s?! 🤣🤣

I will write a proper post but: the global HOT Summit is happening in a place where it’s illegal to be out + LGBTQ; 4 of the 5 applications for the 2019 global SotM conference bans out LGBTQ people, and that doesn’t seem to be a deal breaker; SotM Africa 2017 & SotM Asia 2018 had/have similar issues. LGBTQ safe spaces don’t seem to be required. You shouldn’t criticise tactics against oppression if you don’t have a track record of criticising the oppression.

This looks very interesting. Is a GPU necessary? Can I run it on a regular laptop? I know it would be much slower. I’ll have to try using this.

Mapillary/etc gets you things that aren’t visible from aerial, so this is a great contribution.

Have you considered getting a 360 camera and putting it on your roof or something? They you’d get even more?

@dzertanoj Your comment really caught my eye. gatekeeper is nowhere near that negative of a term in American English.

Depends. Gatekeeping is a very negative term among trans* people in USA and elsewhere, it refers to the denial of medical/legal resources needed for transition. (linky)

Questions about the licence are really about what you value. I think everyone agrees that without the share-alike clause, OSM data would be in more places. But some (including me) would rather have a share-alike part than the more uses-without-share-back-requirement. For me, that’s the better trade off. Different people value different things, and I’m glad OSM, in general, values share-alike and has it in the licence.

@raito That fixed it! And is actually quite obvious! It’s clearly what @mmd was talking about. Thanks to you both! 🙂🙂🙂