I’m sure Wikidata is great. And it’s something I’d like to know more about. But I don’t have the time now. And what I have works now, so I don’t want to go writing everything to rely on an external service which has a more full featured and complicated data model, when it’s not going to provide any benefit.

Thing that I can access data using SPARQL/CSV query without a line of code other than SPARQL. Not only it is perfect, it takes 4 minutes to do so and data will be up-to-date.

I have 65,000 objects. Can I make that many queries to Wikidata? At 4 minutes a pop, it’ll take 6 months to populate my database. I’m currently updating townlands.ie every day, and want to keep that.

(that query link takes less than 4 minutes for me, probably caching)

That all look really complicated, and looks like I’d have to learn how Wikidata works. It’s something I’d like to learn, but I don’t have the time right now. I’d also have to query a US server, which has obviously bad privacy implications.

It’s not impossible to have it in OSM, because I’ve already put it in OSM. name:1556--1922=King's County is pretty readable. Sure it might not be as full featured as other systems, but it works, it’s readable, it’s easy to enter, and it’s deployed now. “Perfect is the enemy of done” and all that. 😄

Impressive, but now I prefer Wikidata for this task, e.g. “Ленинград”: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q656#P1448 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q656#P17

Cool. I don’t really know anything about wikidata or how to use it though, so I kept it all in OpenStreetMap

Objects like this osm.org/way/331415576 are still tagged in a wrong manner

It’s been fixed now. I missed that one. It just goes to show that we need a community of humans looking at the map. 😄

What about just extending a previously existing relation? Should we just remove the filter in the second line?

I’m not sure what you mean. This overpass query is for finding new, un-relation’ed, rivers. If there’s an existing waterway relation which is missing some parts, then yes, you should add those ways to the correct relation.

Another thing very common in Europe is very long rivers that go through several countries, hence having different names. The most clear example, the Danube, has all these names:

The Danube is already mapped as a relation in OSM: Relation 89652. It has all the appropriate name:XX multilingual tags, however the name tag is set to “Donau”. I’m unsure if that’s correct, but I’m unsure what a correct name tag should be.

However JOSM has a very useful “Download from Overpass API” feature

Also, what’s the name of the plugin who provides this?

That feature should be in JOSM without needing any plugins I think? Maybe you need to turn on “Expert mode” in the settings to see it?

Have fun!

Sounds like it’s something you should start? :)

Sounds like it’s something you should start? :)

It’s based on who created the object in OSM, using a library I wrote for the purpose osm-find-first.

I think this is wonderful, and love the idea of topic-specific editors. I think OSM needs to “go deeper”, and these sort of tools can make that possible.

Now to figure out what “12oz” “drip” and “house coffee” mean. :)

Hi @stephan75, Thanks for your concern. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough, but I’m only looking at admin_level=2’s, i.e. countries. There are a few badly tagged ways/relations which aren’t really admin_level=2 (e.g. osm.org/way/259259040 ).

ATM I’m just messaging the people who mapped those things.

Cool. I’m helping to map and process some of the Irish historic boundaries at townlands.ie

The British Library have replied. Aswell as the high cost of the images (~ £20,000 for email copies of the whole lot), they are also claiming copyright on them, and not allowing the open sharing of information. I don't know if it's legal, but it's certainly not totally clean to import into OSM.

Here's what they say:

> The maps are out of copyright but you cannot reproduce any images
> we supply you with without permission from the British Library.

The original pages published in the 19th century would be out of copyright. There are 2,000 A1 pages. Some places have scanning in the pages and now have digital copies. Some places that have done that claim copyright on the scanned images. It is not clear that scanning legeally gives them copyright, however I don't want to have to go up against the lawyers from the British Library. It would be much easier if they admitted that they legeally aren't claiming copyright.

It's a bit vague. One one hand the [About page](http://opendata.go.ke/page/about/) says "anybody is free to use this data for commercial or non-commercial purposes.", which implies it's OK to import into OSM.

OTOH the [terms of service](http://opendata.go.ke/page/terms-of-service) only mentions non-commerical use.

"whose information is provided on this website impose no restrictions to the non-commercial reproduction, re-publication and re-distribution of any information published on its website."

If only non-commerical usage is OK (i.e. by not mentioning commerical usage), then that's not OK for OSM import.

There is also implications that not all the data accessible there is from the same agency and not all covered by those terms of use, which is a bit unclear.

DRM is optional for worked published on the Kindle Direct Publishing store. (cf. https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=A2Y41NKKEUCDEF#3-13 https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=A36BYK5S7AJ2NQ#3-13 https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=AT1K7B0DRETM0 ).

And no, I don't use DRM at all on these, because the CC licence forbids it, because I think DRM should never exist, and because I'm a fan of the openness.

You'll also note that I attribute "OpenStreetMap Contributors" as the author of the book(s) (cf. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0052TSHO0 )

I found a solution to this.

sly has made their mapnik styles used in "Yet another validation tool" (http://beta.letuffe.org/ or osm.wiki/Yet_another_validation_tool_for_osm_data) available here http://beta.letuffe.org/mapnik-styles/

Hi.

Great to hear you want to help. We need all the help we can get. However, as others have said, you have to be careful with maps. Nearly all are under copyright, and it's against the law to copy them willy nilly.

How old is your map?

Copyright expires, so a new map will be almost certainly copyrighted, but old maps might be OK.