Hi,

The relation 'Cliff Oval' says both pitches have this name. Looking at the base map .. that would seem to indicate only the northern one has that name?
Thoughts?

Hi,
Hi,
The JOSM validator would have informed you that this way/1093226716 crosses itself. That should be fixed before you upload it.

See https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=147.34993&lat=-35.10750&zoom=19&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways for a QA tool that also identifies it as a problem.

Your source is not specific, imagery with the best resolution and positional accuracy in this are is the DCS NSW Imagery.

Please pay attention to those JOSM validator errors and warnings, they help to improve mapping.

I shall leave this for you to fix.

Hi,
Building Way: 344030848 looks to be demolished in Maxar imagery. Are you certain it is still here?

Observable from imagery:
Cricket is played here, the wear between the wickets is clear.

I and others in the past have mapped the rectangular wear into OSM. Most of us now recognise that this in not a good representation and it is a better representation to place a circle centred on the wear.
Cricket is not only local to this area, taking a 'local' approach to mapping cricket I don't think would be helpfull,
Do you have a solution - other than 'don't map it'?

Hi,
The JOSM validator would have informed you that this way/1092998883 crosses itself. That should be fixed before you upload it.

See https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=147.37034&lat=-35.11776&zoom=19&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways for a QA tool that also identifies it as a problem.

The DCS imagery has better resolution that bing and it looks to like that area simply shows a roof shadow rather than a building gap.

Please pay attention to those JOSM validator errors and warnings, they help to improve mapping.

I shall leave this for you to fix.

The mapper has expressed views regarding this on an unrelated changeset of mine - Changeset: 124324306.
I quote
"Combine this with your pattern of remote mapping in an area - again, based on what a validator says are the "rules";"

Not only a validator but also the OSM wiki - both of these quoted above.

" deleting contibutions, and abrasive commentary... well that's not helping the local map consumers or contributors either."

I have in the past corrected your entries. However we all learn best by correcting our own errors. Your practice of ignoring comments while you continue to map ... and then expecting corrections to be made by others ... thank you, but no. You are on the ground ... and best placed to detail the building... looks like a roof down the centre?

In any case ... do not use a multipolygon relation where the outer ways are not disjointed, for reference see the wiki linked above.

If you care to look back at way/246072179/history you will see the cricket pitch was mapped to the Australian rules football area... The Australian Rules Football were not mapped .. so the past mapper ignored the football ... but tagged cricket.

Then look at the 'park' mapped within the school .. that was removed and the football and cricket mapped, both of these missing, in the 'Front Oval' area. I not that I missed mapping the long jumps...

All of these exist. Perhaps not the the precision you desire.. but some of them were not mapped at all, the single cricket pitch was mapped to the football .. and the football missing... I think that this is an improvement over what was there before; being

2 AFL pitches
3 cricket pitched - 1 being a change of boundaries
more detail mapping of tennis pitches
new mapping of cricket nets
new mapping of a basketball court...

remove of 'park' within the school grounds .. look like an attempt to map a grassed area.

Think OSM uses the word 'master' for the combined overall route, the smaller bits would not be called 'master' IIRC. But it is going to be a big job. Probably worthwhile.

You could always try JOSM ...

I have been thinking (always a bad sign!) that it would be easier if these routs share the same path that the 'same path' could be a single relation tht the other relations then use. The difficulty is the where they use differing platforms... much simpler where they only have one choice. But that would be a future thing .. busy with other stuf.

I'm not an Id users so cannot give much of a clue for the imagery .. In JOSM there is a tab says 'Imagery' .. click on that and you get a list of what to select.. the DCS is in there..

The reason why I messaged you is to alert you to the error so you don't repeat it .. well other than accidentally. The OSM wiki is fairly good though it does suffer from terse and computer types semantics... and idiots like me editing it.. but over all it is a fair guide, just keep your brains switched on when reading it..

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You did leave behind somethings that I have cleaned up. Many times it is easier to fix things than let a new person have a go at it.. as it can be complex to describe. Don't worry about it, keep mapping and you'll learn.
Cheers.

Hi
The multipolygon 14549885 (The Terminus?) breaks the rules - outer ways must be disjointed. The outer ways here are joined.

If this is one building then use building:part to map the different parts, but a simple way tagged building=yes etc. See building:part=*
I think the DCS Imagery is better than bing.

That would imply bicycle=dismount.

Don't be afraid of trying things out. 'Control Z' will undo most things. You can also 'save' (upper right tab 'File' then 'save) the work locally to your drive so you don't loose stuff before you try something out... To get back what you saved - upper right 'file' tab 'Open Recent' and select the file name you used.

Don't import unless you know that the information is comparable with OSM requirements! These are very strict, most 'free' CC-BY-SA) sources are not comparable.. The website you linked to is 'for personal use only' so it must NOT be used in OSM. OSM licences its output for any use - including commercial.

What has been entered here for buildings are nodes - single points. You have mapped footpaths as ways .. the same can be done for buildings - the ways must be 'closed' to form a continuous line without gaps. Then you tag the way as, for example, building=house.

Tracktype=grade1 with surface=unpaved...

NO.

tracktype=grade4 ...

Hi
Mapping buildings as simple nodes is quick. But it is better to map them as closed ways, and even better going from building=yes to building=house...

I operate on a very narrow 1%.

Right side bar . relations - select a relation, then at the bottom of that relation window there is an edit button click that - opens a window for the relation .. on the left of that there are a number of buttons .. you want the arrow with the red bubbles beside it .. click on either the up of down arrow and it will sort the way/s you have highlighted. Play with it.. I think I have the descriptions right ... just don't save untill your happy with the result. Or quite without saving. A newer version of JOSN has a rotate function .. I'm keen to see if that does what I want ..

JOSM user here. Makes things like the India Pacific train route much easier! JOSM will automate putting them in order .. then I go through looking at the gaps and filling those in - in this case short sections only, and then redoing the auto sequence, check for gaps .. untill you can get from end to end without gaps .. fairly quick process when the gaps are small. Much harder when gaps are large and there is more than one possible path.

Yes, you look to be more acquainted with it than me, so any errors, by me or others, might get picked up by you.. I hope!

Oh
The Maxar imagery is showing the shelters, so at long last these can be seen.

All yours.

I may have added the vehicle track some time back when the northern route opened .. it was all that was available at the time.