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36510776

Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

I think something went a bit wrong with the description here - the changeset comment says "Added forest track" but you deleted an orchard way/252659185/history and added a bank?
It can be a bit confusing - when you hit "save" the comment defaults to the last one you use, and you have to change it manually. Also, it helps if you hit "save" when you've finished in one local area so that (as here) you don't have a change spanning the Atlantic.
Anyway, hope you don't mind me mentioning this; just trying to help - any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
Cheers,
Andy

36478817

Given that this changeset actually only affects a few small areas, it would have been nice if it had been split into 3 :)

36492759

This is a huge changeset. How do I know if there are any changes near me?

Also, how did you check that each of these buildings was best described as a "pavilion"? Often tagging mistakes (e.g. "Pavilion" instead of "pavilion" are made by inexperienced mappers; often in cases like that something else is wrong too.

36567982

Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

If a pub has been turned into flats and is never going to be a pub again, it's OK to just delete it (and of course you could add the building for the new flats of course). Leaving it as a pub might mean a wasted trip for people in search of a beer, since it'll still appear on maps and in extracted data as a pub. Thanks for the update though - it's useful to know what's open and what's closed (and when). If you were worried about all trace of the pub having been there disappearing, don't, because it's possible to extract deleted items as well as current ones from the data (though maps of course only show what's currently there).

Anyway, hope you don't mind me mentioning this - just trying to help.
Cheers,
Andy

15669752

I'm guessing that way/216653657 might not be a shop as someone has just added the restaurant in the front of it (with an OSM username that matches the restaurant name).

36527789

Just checking - way/390996426 is in the middle of Greenland. Is there really a cafe there?

If not, and you're looking for a test server, you might want to try http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ (exactly the same as the main OSM server, but you'd need to extract the data from there yourself to render it).

Cheers,

Andy

36457175

What was the routing problem that was previous reported? You've changed 2 derelict_canal ways only here; I can't see how that should affect routing?

36454178

I'd say that Burnett Lane as more of a road than a track actually (and I'm often the one in OSM arguing for stuff to be tagged as "track" rather than some sort of road).

Which part of the previous tagging was incorrect? If your navigation software is sending you down "lanes=1; width=2" roads when you don't expect it to I'd suggest that you need to configure it or change it, not tag incorrectly for the router :)

30232058

As mapped, way/270716541#map=19/51.33016/-0.55895 looks fairly implausible. It suggests that it is impossible to get from the footpath to the adjacent road for most of its length?

36330207

Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap! You've added a change with a comment here suggesting an "mj's shop" might be present but I don't see where you added it. Just checking you didn't think you had....

21473338

Just a heads-up - based on the other edits by the user, I suspect that the deletion of node/1043521532/history (which was created here) might be incorrect and need checking.

36482124

Hi,
Thanks for the reply. OS maps showed (and in some cases still show) lots of "places" that are no longer used as placenames, and in some cases never were. For example, the current OS maps show 4 names for "villages" within a mile of me (and OS historic maps 1 more), yet in reality only two are actually used by people who live there. If what you're trying to map is a historic name that is no longer in use then http://www.openhistoricalmap.org is really the place to add it, since OpenStreetMap is very much about "what exists now" not "what use to exist". You won't find former countries such as Yugoslavia or Courland in OSM, so the "Liberty of Saffron Hill" doesn't really below either.

36514600

How does this change improve the quality of OpenStreetMap data?

36316651

Thanks. For info I walked a bit of the cycleway north of Harby at the weekend, and all the signage west points to "Fledborough", which isn't very helpful (it goes over Fledborugh Viaduct, but not very close to Fledborough village itself).

36316651

The item in question is a "landuse=brownfield", no one is going to mistake it for a village in the data :)

36482124

Are you sure that "Liberty of Saffron Hill" is a current suburb? If so, could you actually link to somewhere where that name is currently used - or better still a sign on the ground? I'm fairly familiar with that part of London (though not a local) and have never heard of it before.

36110261

Re "I just take my info on wikipedia", well, strictly speaking, the licence is incompatible - we can't provide wikipedia with the attribution that their licence would require. Of course in this case, the statement "Calder Hall was a nuclear power station on Sellafield site." is attestable through the local knowledge of many people, including me (if you consider the Calder Hall site, Sellafield and Windscale to be part of the same site, which makes some sort of sense - the original reason for the division is essentially political). But the Calder Hall power stations do not occupy the whole of the current Calder Hall site, and you therefore extrapolated incorrectly (and therefore without proper checking, making the edit essentially mechanical).
Note that I did engage you here before reverting, but your reply ("Calder Hall : I add power=plant and disused=yes. it was a power plant but not now.") was factually incorrect for the reasons discussed at length above and didn't address the issues that I raised.
Re disused=yes, have you actually looked in detail about people's use of lifecycle tags in detail? I have - even when looking at just one type of object there is a huge variety of different tagging (see https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L399 for example). Looking in more detail, "disused=yes" in around me has 3 many components. In order these are:
1) A historical import of former petroleum wells
2) Things that are still present but not used or usable for their former purpose (e.g. a some buildings and canal with water in it that's no longer used for navigation - it's not a derelict_canal, but it's not actually used any more)
3) (by far the smallest portion) People using disused=yes instead of "disused:tag=value".

36110261

Re "i just translate with real tag" - no, Calder Hall was always much more than a nuclear power station. It did _contain_ a former nuclear power plant (actually at least 4 reactors - there were others elsewhere on the wider site such as a prototype AGR). It is _not_ now a power plant, so mapping it as a power plant is simply incorrect.

Tagging as "disused=yes" is simply malking everyone's life harder - you're sying in one tag that it _is_ something and in another that it _isn't_. If you think there's a concensus in favour of disused=yes I suggest that you ask on a mailing list or in a forum :)

And yes, I have been to Sellafield, though it was a while ago when the Calder Hall cooling towers and both Windscale chimneys were in place.

36110261

As disused=*: makes clear, adding "disused=yes" is a bad idea - it makes Calder Hall look like an operational power plant (which it isn't). Note that the area mapped as relation/4737028 is the whole "Calder Hall" site, in which various industrial processes take place. It's labelled as such to distinguish it from "Sellafield" just to the northwest. The original Calder Hall reactors were on part of the Calder Hall site, but only a very small part of it. It never was in its entirety a nuclear power plant (the reactors there were of course primarily designed to create plutonium for nuclear wapons, not electrical power).

"armchair" mapping of this type without any knowledge of the subject or area devalues the data in OpenStreetMap and devalues the work of all the other mappers who contribute to the project. Please don't do it.

If you think that something that you are unfamiliar with is "wrong" you have lots of options. In this case you could have contacted the previous mapper (who is actually a Cumbria native), or you could have contacted local mappers via the talk-gb list, or via #osm-gb via IRC.

36056289

If you're going to do that you need to tell people that you're doing it though - if you don't people will see things disappear from maps that they make from OSM data. It's the reason why osm.wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct has a "Document and discuss your plans" section.