Hei, vet du om way/818453567 finnes? Ingen spor i Strava heatmap som sammenfaller med den, til tross for mye aktivitet ellers i området.

way/818453567/history

Hi,

Just went out and did the trails in question after a drizzly day here in Bergen. The leaves from last fall are still on the ground, and spring has barely sprung. I hiked up way/1148178587 (currently tagged as demanding alpine hiking), and ran down lower part of 1091940537 (currently tagged as demanding mountain hiking) and way/1194667660 (currently tagged as alpine hiking) so that they were fresh in my mind.

I appreciate the effort you've made to educate yourself on sac_scales, as classifying trails is prone to subjectivity. I acknowledge your experience on the side of Sandviksfjellet, and that your perception of the trails is a valid as anyone else's. It seems like you were in quite a bit of trouble as you spent hours navigating down these trails instead of retreating upwards which I can imagine must've been subpar to say the least.

You state that the trails are "completely invisible", which I found surprising. Did you perhaps accidentally go off route completely? I actually filmed parts of the descents and ascent on the trails in questions because, at least to me, they're clearly visible. I'll admit that sections on rocks can be tricky to see, but I'd argue that it's clear to see where the moss on the rocks has been worn down by people and that you can see the trail pick up on the other side of the rock field. I've also done the trails in the snow, and sometimes find them even more visible then.

At no point does the trails require "full-body-strength crab-scrambling", so I again question if perhaps you were off trail. I don't believe the paths in question fit the description for such a classification. Both alpine and demanding alpine hiking is described in the wiki as being exposed, and that the use of hands and easy climbing is needed. I did the trails without the use of hands what so ever, and believe that T3 demanding mountain hiking where "use of hands for balance" is a more fitting description. T3 can also have portions of the trail exposed with the danger of falling, and it is in my opinion a big difference in danger of falling and exposed terrain. We're also very from needing knowledge of elementary rope, crampons and ice axe techinques. I don't agree that the pictures in the wiki is comparable, as they show a significant exposure and the need for light scrambling. It does however sound like you did experience this on your way down (which admittedly is harder than going uphill), so I understand that you because of this would advocate for a T4 or T5 classification. I would however consider max T3 for these trails. I would like if the Norwegian SOM community weighted in on this matter.

It seems like there's a misunderstanding as you've deleted the older existing way with proper tags. The duplicate way I was referring to was the newer one that you added, which you've decided to keep instead. It's considered best practice to keep older ways in such instances.,Also, highway=bikeway isn't an accepted tag so the way is probably not routable. Lastly, it looks like you're mapping a larger trail. These are much better to add as a relation in which several different ways make up the larger trail. You can look to popular routes such as the Pacific Crest Trail for reference: relation/1238538#map=11/34.3905/-117.8954

I'd suggest reverting the removal of way/760427259

Hi,

There's a note related to a change you added many ears ago (node/4237520295#map=17/9.489779/100.053064&layers=N).

Link to the note:
note/1463682#map=19/9.491245/100.056925&layers=N

Har også sett et par driveways du har kartlagt, ville også sjekket ut wikien for den taggen:
service=driveway?uselang=en

Hei,

Ser du har oppdatert tags på way/12701667

Slik den er tagget nå som enveiskjørt kan den ikke nås, men det ser heller ikke ut til at veien eksisterer i det hele tatt i andre kartlag. Ville tenkt at viene skal fjernes, men vil høre med deg i og med at du nylig har gjort endringer på den

Hei! Supert at du bidrar til å forbedre OpenStreetMap. Ser du har kartlagt en del parking aisle, men at det ikke alltid ser ut til å bli helt rett. Minner om definisjonen av parking aisles:

"a subordinated way in a parking lot between rows of parking spaces that vehicles use to drive into and out of the spaces"

Hi,

Seems like part of the Arizona trail you mapped (way/1344928151) already exists. It now partly duplicates with another way (way/760427259/history)
. Furthermore, it does not have a highway tag, so as of now it is not routable.

Takk for påminnelsen, har fikset det nå

Hi,

There's been left a note that states that there's no campground at this point. In satellite imagery I can see that while it's physically possible to park a van or mobile home here, it doesn't look like a designated spot. Do you think the the campground you mapped should be kept or removed?

Hi,

I see you set access for bicycle= no. Is cycling really forbidden on this bridge?

Hei, ser ut til at way/1320660581 som du har laget ikke er tagget som noe, og heller ikke inngår i noen relation. Har du mulighet til å se på det?

Hei,

Ser ut til at du med dette kalte en relation som strekker seg helt til Møllendal for Tveiterås. Har du mulighet til å ordne opp i dette? relation/4824122/history#map=15/60.36446/5.37161

Hei,

Fjernet delen av sykkelveien du kartla i Jacob Kjødes som ikke finnes, men beholdt øvre del (changeset/161670484). Se for øvrig også veileder for tittel på changesets: osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments

Relevante kilder:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/352556601921160/posts/890267891483359/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/352556601921160/posts/910307636146051/

https://morotur.no/tur/skarven-i-skorgedalen (GPX-filen stemmer ikke helt)

Yes, you can filter for ride, run (which is all foot sports i believe), winter and water using the iD Strava Heatmap extension. There actually isn't any traces from winter activities, but that of course doesn't mean nobody skies here. I'll contact the local hiking association and see if they have any info

Hei,

The activity in strava heatmap by the bridge close to Ingridsetra doesn't align with what's mapped. Do you know if the trail has been rerouted?

Hei,

Det kan se ut som stien 335098631 ikke eksisterer - den krysser myr, er ikke synlig i flyfoto og har ingen spor av aktivitet i Strava heatmap. Den deler til dels trasé med en skiløype, er det det som egentlig er kartlagt her?

way/335098631/history#map=15/61.03719/10.14085

Dette her er OpenStreetMap, og mtbmaps bruker OSM som kilde til stiene sine. Ser mtbmaps har en lenke til å redigere OpenStreetMap, kanskje der forvirringen kommer fra! Mtbmaps har valgt å vise vanskelighetsgrad på stier med highlights i ulike farger, men for at de skal dukke opp må de aller først ha en angitt vanskelighetsgrad i OSM. Det kan se ut til at stien må ha mtb:scale = 1 for å bli blå.

Ser du har gjort en del redigeringer her:
way/177381092/history

Andre brukere av OSM følger vanligvis ikke med på alle endringer som gjøres i kartet, noe som forklarer hvorfor du ikke har fått noe svar på dine endringer. Merk at OSM brukes av svært mange aktører til veldig mye forskjellig!

Ikke sikker på om jeg forstår hva du mener, er blå farge med highlight en type markering av vanskelighetsgrad i en annen karttjeneste?