is that a personal attack? I was tired and hit paste thinking it was the last thing I wrote for save but instead was the that. I hit save before I noticed.

I have request others to look at this for some mediation.

Again please add that detail of the opening date and the continued construction to the attributes of the relation related to the Sound Transit rail line.

The user of the map need to know to expect rail traffic from any direction at any time on active rail and that is more important for safety than the interpretation of the map for passenger use.

Vehicles can now move freely along the corridor. The construction has ended to the point that allows traffic to move. There for the corridor is passible by rail traffic. Even if the use of the light rail vehicles has not changed to allow passengers.

I disagree https://www.instagram.com/p/CZu8k5-lGHp/
It is passible.

The line feature is a description of what we see on the ground. That is the way I enforce this. If you have a problem with this please bring it up within the community. I encourage you to do so as I think the life cycle tagging needs some support.

We are not arguing over the official definition. We are arguing over how it is defined to be mapped by OSM. railway=rail
As OSM maps what is on the ground. Not an official measure from a governmental source. I would encourage you to edit the relation as that is the place to make those marks.

It would be more appropriate to set to light_rail but I have chosen not brake some routing options that might suggest it being open. But "we do not edit maps for the renderer." Or the implied meaning of a render. I will agree that both lifecycle tags and railroad tags are different in the way tags things from other features. It is important to supply as much detail to a map.

No. trains are now active on this line and it is functional and usable. Please set the construction to the relation as that attribute of use of light rail line continues to be under construction.

As put forth in the guidelines this is not the place to discuss the "concern with the actual data" The process that is laid out in the import guidelines is where this discussion is supposed to occur.

MY understanding is that the "did't ask permission" is a paper trail for the licensing and understanding so that we don't have licensing or other issues from the owner of the data. osm.wiki/Import/Guidelines#Document_your_import
It is also my understanding that guidelines are put in place so that rouge imports don't mess with existing data.
osm.wiki/Import/Guidelines

Thank You for your understanding and getting involved. Please get started with the guidelines and open a Potential Data sources here: osm.wiki/Import/Guidelines#Discuss_your_proposed_import
Glassman will likely reply tomorrow with better detail that I don't know about as this process is not something I do regularly.

If you have further questions for me, you can reply here, message me directly through OSM, find me on Slack or the Discord Server.

Kind Regards, Nat

Glassman is wonderful to work with on imports. Thanks for following the directions given so that we may include these changes. Please leave a comment here and Find the Slack, or Discord server in my profile for community communications.
Kind Regards, Nat
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yep Greg that is right. Been like this for more than a year now. also ownership changed hands and there should be a new operator.

Welcome to Open Street Map nice Railroad Edit. Glassman may be along soon to give you some pointers. -Nat

These must be mountain bike trails not used for pedestrians. Otherwise I can't think of why I would have used this tag.

Thanks Ironmatic1 to answer your questions.
1) These will eventually be deleted as they are outside the scope of OSM.
2) Mapping for the renderer is not allowed.

And we have OHM to take up where we want to save this sort of old data. Believe me I have been down this road. I have vouched for all of the above. We can chat about this further on Discord and/or Slack.
Best Regards, Natfoot

Hello ironmatic1,
Unfortunately things get deleted in OSM from time to time. Things that can be classified as history often get deleted and mapping for the renderer is not allowed. If you want this sort of data to persist the best option is Open Historical Map.
I'd be happy to help in any way. I edit railroads here and on Open Historical Map.
I just added this line in OHM. Please create an account and add the details.
Best regards, Natfoot

Hi there ironmatic,
I messaged you through Open Street Map. If you login and check your messages you will see my message. I am an active railroad contributor and can answer any of your question. Check my profile for other resources.

The Port Angles location has not been changed yet. Also SPB is listed for the location by the State of Washington for the Lake Union location, where you have LKE. Could you please let me know where I can find this data to reference.

Hey, Thank You for adding this information. Another tag that you could add is railway:signal:main:form=sign
Don't worry I am inconsistent at adding this to all the lights. eg. railway:signal:main:form=light
Best, Nat