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There are a lot of things around us that cannot be mapped as they are on the ground, so we have to be creative and do workarounds. How can we reflect half-imaginary things like public transport route with a timetable on a map when de-facto buses just appearing here and there by some rule? Do we write scripts that open and close shops according to their opening hours? Yes, I’m exaggerating. Wikipedia says that country border is a boundary of political entity and it’s not always about force, control, sometimes it is imaginary and only supported by documents. Sometimes we can see it as a fence, border control and militia. Sometimes it is completely invisible. Still both can be mapped.

@redsteakraw, I see your point but cannot agree with what you write here. Brute force was a powerful tool in the past, but now majority of civilization thinks that there are more effective ways of making things right.

Thanks to Kilkenni and the community for raising the wave of wonder to the DWG resolution.

I would like to tell that it’s quite strange to raise question that was agreed (yes, compromise) years ago and actually just tell - we just thought and let it be how we see it now. No arguments accepted. Yeah let it be a tyranny in our decisions.

If you tell “truth on the ground” I’ll tell you that there is no such thing for administrative borders. There is no one-to-one relation, but there are claims and people who say this or that, official documents that note the areas. This is true that Crimea is controlled by Russia now, and yet it would be a huge mistake to start the thread of disputes about the question that whole countries don’t yet have officially recognized answer you like.

Country administrative borders do not change until country tells it is making the change because it is its administrative border. Russia government did change to its border, and it was done in 2014 in their official documents, and it was reflected in administrative relation in OSM. Ukraine did not do that change, and nothing changed from that time.

Highly disappointed with this DWG decision. That is not how already settled up arguments should be re-resolved.

В общем-то ничего странного. Есть темы, которые кому-то неинтересны. Есть отпуска, загруженность на работе, отсутствие желания открывать форум и JOSM.

Конечно, иметь большое количество постоянных участников было бы хорошо, и к этому надо стремиться.

edward17: osm.org/changeset/34240176

Zverik,

очень правильный комментарий, мне тоже не нравится сама идея отклонения работы. Валидация в подавляющем большинстве случаев не должна оставлять негативных впечатлений. Правда, при малом количестве участников это часто значит, что зеленых участков просто не будет - все будут работать по принципу - и так много работы, еще доделывать за кем-то… Хотелось бы ошибаться, конечно.

Надо диффы для конвертированных карт. Только вот как это сделать - непонятно.

Раз картинку ты уже сжал (искажения и так и так будут), можешь взять мапник 7 слоя, там в основном границы и видны и ресайзнуть его до нужного размера